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mozartjuveniles

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Sonata Mozart

on: September 20, 2007, 02:33:03 AM

I have 2 books mozart sonata. One of the sonata have a different note. I want to ask which one is right? One is peters edition and the other is wiener urtext.

thanks.

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invictious

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Re: Sonata Mozart

Reply #1 on: September 20, 2007, 08:59:24 AM

Personally some recordings I have heard, they follow the first example.
Knowing Mozart, however, that the intro motif, using octaves for bass is pretty unusual for his style, whereas the latter example seems to be more...Mozartian.

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Re: Sonata Mozart

Reply #2 on: October 06, 2007, 08:40:11 AM

The original source for this piece (Leopold's transcription of his son's sketch) does not reflect either edition you have. The bass note on the downbeat is doubled at the octave, but the G is not. This remains consistent throughout the movement, and from a musical standpoint, makes a lot more sense. It is the metrical strong point - the 3rd beat is not considering the piece is "felt" in 2. There is actually no forte marking at the beginning of the manuscript either, but it is assumed based on later passages.

Good luck - it's a great piece.

- Andrew

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Re: Sonata Mozart

Reply #3 on: October 06, 2007, 05:40:23 PM

Quote from: mcgillcomposer on October 06, 2007, 08:40:11 AM

The original source for this piece (Leopold's transcription of his son's sketch) does not reflect either edition you have. The bass note on the downbeat is doubled at the octave, but the G is not. This remains consistent throughout the movement, and from a musical standpoint, makes a lot more sense. It is the metrical strong point - the 3rd beat is not considering the piece is "felt" in 2. There is actually no forte marking at the beginning of the manuscript either, but it is assumed based on later passages.

Good luck - it's a great piece.

- Andrew

Thanks for the useful information. Do you know if Mozart's keyboard went down to that low G?

Walter Ramsey

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mozartjuveniles

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Re: Sonata Mozart

Reply #4 on: October 08, 2007, 01:48:22 PM

So?

? I must change my mozart sonata edition? how to find the good edition?

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Re: Sonata Mozart

Reply #5 on: October 08, 2007, 08:42:40 PM

Quote

Do you know if Mozart's keyboard went down to that low G?

Almost certainly not.

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Re: Sonata Mozart

Reply #6 on: November 09, 2008, 06:00:43 PM

Wiener Urtext is the best for Mozart Sonatas!!!

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pianisten1989

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Re: Sonata Mozart

Reply #7 on: November 09, 2008, 06:19:39 PM

Urtext is the one

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Reply #8 on: November 09, 2008, 07:03:50 PM

i cannot save it as u say... could u download it and then post it?
or email me it? thanks a bunch

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