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Topic: chopin 2nd sonata 4th movt comparison  (Read 3539 times)

Offline fiasco

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chopin 2nd sonata 4th movt comparison
on: October 31, 2007, 04:20:17 AM
So, I've been into the 4th movt of Chopin's 2nd sonata lately, the whole weirdness of it, the power in its ending, and I've listened to a few different recordings, all not much different from each other, then I came acorss Horowitz performing at the White House:

and I thought, wow, that was really good, there's just something about it where you know the guy playing it has something going on the other pianists don't, and it was my favorite version until I came across Cziffra playing it, thus:

Now, I feel the Cziffra recording is the best I've heard, there's just this whole other dimension to it, but this seems to be because of the liberties he's taken with it.  If I'm not mistaken (I can't get onto sheetmusicarchives to check it out for some reason) there are no pedal marks and barely any tempo or volume changes as written..  And if all these other pianists are sticking to the script, their recordings can only be so much...  If Cziffra goes about adding notes and creating phrases with the pedal, is it still really what Chopin intended?  Or is this what makes a great performer?

Offline thalberg

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Re: chopin 2nd sonata 4th movt comparison
Reply #1 on: October 31, 2007, 04:31:03 AM
IMO the movement, following the funeral march, is supposed to be monophonic.  It gives it a disembodied, spiritual quality.  If you pedal, then there's harmony.

Both recordings were great though.  I say do what you want.  The world has heard this movement so many times you won't be depriving them of anything by playing it your own way, even if some may disagree with it.

Offline invictious

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Re: chopin 2nd sonata 4th movt comparison
Reply #2 on: October 31, 2007, 08:57:12 AM
This movement is my favorite movement from the whole sonata (no wonders why). I love it because every recording is different, just because there are so many dimensions to it, just like music.
Bach - Partita No.2
Scriabin - Etude 8/12
Debussy - L'isle Joyeuse
Liszt - Un Sospiro

Prokofiev - Toccata


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