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redbaron

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I'm looking for some information on the Liszt Consolations in general and No 4 in particular. A trawl through the internet has proved relatively fruitless and the nice shiny Schirmer edition I've just purchased doesn't contain any information on them either. When I say information I mean date of composition, any related stories, meanings behind the music inspiration, that kind of thing.

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chopinfan_22

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Re: Liszt Consolations

Reply #1 on: November 06, 2007, 05:38:19 PM

If you go onto the pianostreet sheetmusic area and search for them, you can find the years that they were written. The only thing I know about the Consolations is that they were written to "console". At least, that's my guess.

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Re: Liszt Consolations

Reply #2 on: November 07, 2007, 07:29:26 AM

Try searching Amazon for a definitive biography of Lizst - many times these tomes contain details about when, where, why, and for whom pieces were written.

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stringoverstrung

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Re: Liszt Consolations

Reply #3 on: November 09, 2007, 07:46:40 PM

Quote from: redbaron on November 06, 2007, 02:39:03 PM

I'm looking for some information on the Liszt Consolations in general and No 4 in particular. A trawl through the internet has proved relatively fruitless and the nice shiny Schirmer edition I've just purchased doesn't contain any information on them either. When I say information I mean date of composition, any related stories, meanings behind the music inspiration, that kind of thing.

Thanks

They were composed during the period 1849-1850.
their self reflective, self communicatice character reveals a much more thoughtful liszt: this is music tinged with a secret sorrow. It first stirred to life under Liszt's fingers in the Altenburg, (-> Weimar, Germany) where the tragedy of his liaison with Carolyne had begun to penetrate his soul.

source: Alan Walker biopgraphy of liszt part 2: great book you should read it.
PS: you can still visit Liszt museum in Weimar and Bayreuth (where is also buried).

PS: the author also links these consolations to a style that is chopineske this to a (maybe conscious) tribute to Chopin and names compositions from liszt that are in the same class:

Two polonaises (1851)
Berceuse (1854)
Mazurka Brillante (1850)
Two Ballades (1845-48, 1853)

so if you listen to these recordings you might catch the right spirit / mood.

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gerry

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Reply #4 on: November 09, 2007, 07:56:19 PM

I also see a stylistic resemblence between them (especially #3) to Chopin Nocturnes.

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liszt1022

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Re: Liszt Consolations

Reply #5 on: November 11, 2007, 04:16:27 AM

My Dover edition, which reprints the "Franz Liszt-Stiftung" edition, says "The star over No. 4 signifies that in this piece Liszt used the melody of a song composed by the Grand Duchess Maria Paulovna."
-Jose Vianna da Motta, 1924

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Reply #6 on: July 19, 2008, 09:58:16 PM

No. 4 i know is based on a theme written by the Grand Duchess Maria Pavlovna of Weimar

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Liszt Consolation # 4

Reply #7 on: September 11, 2011, 09:35:19 PM

You will find all the iniformation you need about Consolation # 4 in this article:
(you may download the article directly from this link):

https://www.americanlisztsociety.net/SonatainBminorbyTiborSzasz.pdf

No, there is no mistake here: the theme of the Consolation # 4 was
reused by Liszt in his Sonata in B minor. The author of this Consolation
and Sonata theme was Her Royal Highness Maria Pavlovna Romanova who
appointed Liszt as Kapellmeister in Weimar, Germany.

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