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sporadicmystic

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To anyone who has every played or looked at the Scriabin 3rd Sonata.......

on: November 25, 2007, 06:53:14 AM

.....I am stuggling with the fourth movement. I was wondering if anyone who has played this piece has any advice for the trecharous movement. Sometimes it goes fine, but sometimes not so well.
I was wondering, in particular, what fingering you used in the LH part for M. 25 -35. I always went
125,125,2152, etc...but just tonight I discovered what MAY prove to be more efficient:123,135(as opposed to 125 again). Anyway, yes...The first 3 movements are a piece of cake, but this one has been giving me trouble since July! Any advice? Thank you so much!

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Reply #1 on: November 25, 2007, 04:48:32 PM

even kissin fakes the left hand in the 4th movement of scriabin's 3rd sonata.

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Reply #2 on: November 26, 2007, 12:54:42 AM

Scriabin the Sinistral had a vision of overshadowing Josef Lhevinne's left hand while composing.

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Reply #3 on: February 19, 2008, 07:31:17 AM

Hi!

I'm playing the piece. The fingering solution for your issue in m. 25 is very simple: Always take the first note of the LH with the right hand! (Just integrate it in the chord you play on every other downbeat). That's a really appropriate way to prevent the left hand from getting tired. You MUST relax it sometimes.

I don't think the first movement is a piece of cake. It is hard to get an expressive legato in the octaves. And that's what late romantic russian piano music is about: The singing quality of the line. At the end of the exposition there's a quite tricky polyphony. Are you able to play it in a way that every voice can be heard at every time? Even the longer sustained notes? Here we are. That's the challange.

The 4rth movement should work if you are patient enough to practice it slowly for a long time: The movement of the hand should be smooth, with a flexible wrist, without any tension.

Feel free to contact me at [email protected] if you have further questions.

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