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Piano Rieger-Kloss (Bohemia pianos) mod. Janacek
Mics. Rode K2.   
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Sandro

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Re: Rameau: L'egyptienne (the egyptian maiden) VIDEO
Reply #1 on: July 29, 2008, 05:58:41 AM
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Re: Rameau: L'egyptienne (the egyptian maiden) VIDEO
Reply #2 on: July 29, 2008, 09:14:43 AM
i listened to yours and solokov's.  i prefer solokov's - but that doesn't mean i don't like yours.  he plays it slower and with more dynamics (moving towards the softer end). 

ps i listened several times (3x) and actually like it better each time i hear it.  but, the thing is that i'd still like to hear a definate stop to the loudest dynamic at maybe forte instead of ff - and then grade everything backwards.

also, i really like to hear more 'groupings' of notes.  my preferences, i guess.

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Re: Rameau: L'egyptienne (the egyptian maiden) VIDEO
Reply #3 on: August 01, 2008, 09:47:41 PM
I like this video very much!  How can you play piano, with the bench so close to the wall?  I would feel very claustrophobic!

Walter Ramsey


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Re: Rameau: L'egyptienne (the egyptian maiden) VIDEO
Reply #4 on: August 05, 2008, 12:54:21 AM
i listened to yours and solokov's.  i prefer solokov's - but that doesn't mean i don't like yours.  he plays it slower and with more dynamics (moving towards the softer end). 

ps i listened several times (3x) and actually like it better each time i hear it.  but, the thing is that i'd still like to hear a definate stop to the loudest dynamic at maybe forte instead of ff - and then grade everything backwards.

also, i really like to hear more 'groupings' of notes.  my preferences, i guess.


Too much kind. I too prefer Sokolov (as complexive figure of musician he is 1000 times me, and also here in this little comparison where he plays live and I at my home...),
but I hope to lose here with dignity. Also about dynamics you are probably right, but I like to use piano without imitate harpsichord (but not with the necessary coherence, and I remain in the half way between free use of piano and all its dynamics and harpsichord style....).
Thank you,
Sandro

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Re: Rameau: L'egyptienne (the egyptian maiden) VIDEO
Reply #5 on: August 05, 2008, 12:57:49 AM
I enjoyed that very much. Very articulate.

Rameau is a very neglected composer. I wish to at some point play his suites. Have you played the entire Nouveau Suites or just this piece?

You are very kind, thank you.
I find so enjoying to play this music....it's not a guarantee of quality (my limits are evident) but
I think this is important.  I play about 10 pieces of Rameau, they are on my youtube channel.
Again thank you for attention and feedback,
Sandro

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Re: Rameau: L'egyptienne (the egyptian maiden) VIDEO
Reply #6 on: August 05, 2008, 01:00:52 AM
I like this video very much!  How can you play piano, with the bench so close to the wall?  I would feel very claustrophobic!

Walter Ramsey

 :) You are not the first to notate this.....but the room is small, and the arms don't touch the wall, the claustrofobic sense is more in the video than in the reality.
Thank you for the attention and all the best,
Sandro

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Re: Rameau: L'egyptienne (the egyptian maiden) VIDEO
Reply #7 on: August 08, 2008, 07:23:15 AM
you seem genuinely interested to convey music even from your home.  my only other advice is to not conduct and play at the same time.  it's a temptation when one plays louder.  they get mesmerized by the harmonies and voices.  but, it's effect on the recording is actually to lessen the time you have to get where you need to be next.  it seems a bit glen gouldish - although i think he hummed.  do you think i am unkind?  i don't mean to be.  you have all these pieces that you can play - way beyond the level of most here - why not take it to the next level?  (not that i know what that level is yet myself) - i look at my last teacher and think 'when will i ever get to be where he is?  never?' -  but, he is constantly improving and that is why i can't catch up. 

what i notice about top performers is that there is at least a moderate discrepancy between how each individual composer is played.  they are aware that they must make a distinction between them.  they cannot all be played at the same dynamics levels - even if one is not imitating the harpsichord - because one is also giving an impression of what the music symbolized or was.  unless you are reinventing it for our time and wish to be a modern communicator of something old.  in this sense - you might be changing the basic dna of the piece.  that's what i think. it seems more circusy.   

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Re: Rameau: L'egyptienne (the egyptian maiden) VIDEO
Reply #8 on: August 09, 2008, 02:39:35 AM
you seem genuinely interested to convey music even from your home.  my only other advice is to not conduct and play at the same time.  ........  in this sense - you might be changing the basic dna of the piece.  that's what i think. it seems more circusy.   

Old, complex and interesting question. Pianists that try to read history and pianists that try to live-again history. Or, in other terms, pianists that believe that score and music are history to be only respected and other pianists that belive that past times, score, composers are myths to declinate from new (or better, from that new that is eternal or about).  I see myself (in the more anonymous positions..)  in the second group......
But I think your arguments are valid at least as mine and I'm interested in your criticism.
I don't think mine here is a real Fortissimo, but I comprehend your coherent considerations.
Sincerely, I adore Sokolov (I heard 6 his concerts and  I know tons of his recordings); here
he uses some particular and sooo difficult thrills, that requires perfect technique (both in hands and in piano mechanism).
Thank you much for attention and all the best,
Sandro
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