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fiasco
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tempest movt. 3 question
on: November 14, 2008, 07:31:16 PM
On the seventh page of Beethoven's Tempest 3rd movt, the repeating trill in RH is marked B flat - C, with the thumb hitting fourth note A. Is that C sharp or natural? The two C's below it are both marked sharp on my copy, but the C in the trill is not. I think it's supposed to be natural but am not sure.
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Beethoven: Sonata Op. 31 No. 2 in D Minor
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rhapsody4
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Re: tempest movt. 3 question
Reply #1 on: November 14, 2008, 08:36:17 PM
I play C natural - I'd never really considered C# there.
I may try it next time, but it doesn't really seem in keeping with the spirit of the rest of the sonata: I suppose this is an example of the gentle dissonance throughout, which keeps the uncomfortable/tempestual, if you will, mood of the work.
Excellent piece btw - one of my favourite Beethovens, as with the others in the Op.31 series.
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scottmcc
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Re: tempest movt. 3 question
Reply #2 on: November 14, 2008, 09:03:33 PM
I'm fighting this movement right now myself. it's quite tricky, at least for me! I agree that it should be a c natural, for a different reason. measure 271 is an exact transposition of measure 43 down a 5th (F to Bb). So, the trills should keep the same whole step interval (F-G-F becomes Bb-C-Bb).
But of course, this raises the same question about measure 43...is it a G natural in the trill or is it sharp? the LH plays a G sharp, but there's no marking of sharp for the R.
either way I guess they should both be the same.
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dkainoa
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Re: tempest movt. 3 question
Reply #3 on: November 17, 2008, 01:29:28 AM
definitely c natural there.
good luck with the piece!
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