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Topic: Cadences for Liszt's Hungarian Rhapsody No. 2  (Read 2509 times)

Offline SwordMaster

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Cadences for Liszt's Hungarian Rhapsody No. 2
on: May 31, 2004, 06:04:29 PM
Hi,

i'm new here, :D

i look for cadences for liszt's hungarian rhapsody no.2...

i have the originally liszt cadence ( i don`t know if only one exists) and the one written by eugen d'albert, but i have a record with another one, i dont know whom it is written by
so, if you have any notes for cadences for rhapsody no.2 could you please send them to me (Sword.Master@web.de) so that i can find the best one...

i need them for a german piano competition  :P ;)

Greetings
 Sword

Offline liszmaninopin

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Re: Cadences for Liszt's Hungarian Rhapsody No. 2
Reply #1 on: May 31, 2004, 06:18:48 PM
If you want Rachmaninoff's Cadenza for the Hungarian Rhapsody #2, I can email it to you.

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Re: Cadences for Liszt's Hungarian Rhapsody No. 2
Reply #2 on: May 31, 2004, 07:32:39 PM
I think it's better if you create your own. It's a cadenza ad libitum, so you should improvise. To just play other people's cadenzas, to me, seems kind of lazy :p.

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Re: Cadences for Liszt's Hungarian Rhapsody No. 2
Reply #3 on: May 31, 2004, 08:21:34 PM
@Liszmaninopin: it would be great if you could send it to me :)

@DarkWind: yeah, i know i should improvise a one, but improvising normally doesnt mean creating one before playing it, it means creating one WHILE playing   :P
well, perhaps i'll make a mixture of the different cadenzas i have, with a little bit of my own influence
;)

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Re: Cadences for Liszt's Hungarian Rhapsody No. 2
Reply #4 on: May 31, 2004, 09:42:20 PM
I just sent the file to your email address.  Check to see if you got it!

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Re: Cadences for Liszt's Hungarian Rhapsody No. 2
Reply #5 on: May 31, 2004, 11:36:31 PM
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@DarkWind: yeah, i know i should improvise a one, but improvising normally doesnt mean creating one before playing it, it means creating one WHILE playing   :P
well, perhaps i'll make a mixture of the different cadenzas i have, with a little bit of my own influence
;)


I know that, what did you think i was saying? It's ok if you have a general idea of how you cadenza is going to be, helps you out more. I generally go back to the main theme in the introduction, and give it a little bit more breath. Actually, quite a lot of breath :p. I play that section but in ascending and descending rapid chords. The left hand plays tremolos and what not. It generally works well enough for me. Of course I give some changes to the main theme. Since it's improvising, it's not always that well! :p

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Re: Cadences for Liszt's Hungarian Rhapsody No. 2
Reply #6 on: May 31, 2004, 11:57:07 PM
thanks, i got it, ill try it out tomorrow... otherwise my neighbours might show me what they think of my cadenza.. ;)

if anybody else has got some cadenzas, also self created ones, simply mail them to me, now i'm sure to create my own one with some inspiration of other cadenzas

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Re: Cadences for Liszt's Hungarian Rhapsody No. 2
Reply #7 on: June 01, 2004, 02:11:23 AM
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I just sent the file to your email address. †Check to see if you got it!

Hey Liszmaninopin,
could you please send it to me as well at slurpie87@hotmail.com?  Where did you get it, by the way?
donjuan

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Re: Cadences for Liszt's Hungarian Rhapsody No. 2
Reply #8 on: June 01, 2004, 02:59:27 PM
I just sent it to your address.

To tell you the truth, I can't remember where I found it, I've had the file for a while now.

Offline faulty_damper

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Re: Cadences for Liszt's Hungarian Rhapsody No. 2
Reply #9 on: June 01, 2004, 11:51:29 PM
I thought that cadenzas were planned out BEFORE the piece was to be played.  Actually improvising is the suckers way of doing it which is filled with mystique and more mystique.

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Re: Cadences for Liszt's Hungarian Rhapsody No. 2
Reply #10 on: June 02, 2004, 01:47:18 AM
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I just sent it to your address.

To tell you the truth, I can't remember where I found it, I've had the file for a while now.


Thank you very much.  I received it just fine!
;donjuan

Offline cziffra

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Re: Cadences for Liszt's Hungarian Rhapsody No. 2
Reply #11 on: June 07, 2004, 11:50:52 AM
liszmaninopin, could you please send the rachmaninoff cadenza to me also?  i'd really like to have a squiz at that-  

thanks in advance

(i'm cvindin@hotmail.com, just to make your life easier)
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