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Offline smiggy

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Cadenza: Hungarian Rhapsody
on: December 16, 2008, 05:45:00 PM
Hungarian Rhapsody No. 2 in C# minor - Liszt

There is a cadenza at the end of this piece. I would quite like to look into playing a cadenza. I'm not sure what the rules are on writing cadenzas or playing other peoples for this piece.
Could someone give me some knowledge on what to do and some background knowledge on Cadenzas as a whole please?

Thanks
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Offline learner of liszt

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Re: Cadenza: Hungarian Rhapsody
Reply #1 on: December 18, 2008, 01:59:33 AM
Having finished putting together a cadenza for this piece just a couple of months ago, I will suggest this: Take the main themes from both the Lassan and the Friska and add embellishments. A personal favorite of mine is Hamelin's cadenza. Perhaps, unless you are exceptionally ridiculously unimaginably talented, a bit less virtuosic.
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Re: Cadenza: Hungarian Rhapsody
Reply #2 on: December 18, 2008, 03:17:54 AM
Hello Smiggy!

To be concise, most people in approaching this cadenza either do nothing, or add a few flashy flourishes before moving on…but there’s a special few who bring out something very involved and involving - the most notable of these being the great Serge Rachmaninov whose efforts have been set to record in two different accounts. Rachmaninov’s cadenza took me off guard at first hearing, but I assure you it is brilliant and even as involved as the piece itself. I urge you to listen to his recordings. But do keep in mind this cadenza is a display of Rachmaninov’s voice and personality and the effect of such a cadenza can be in keeping with your voice and personality (in accordance with Liszt's piece).

Aside from this situation in this piece, I think it is a wonderful thing to be well versed in improvisation. I can hardly think of a casual sit down at a piano without improvising, nor can I understand the pianist who does not improvise in his/her spare time. It is a wonderful thing, the voices it reveals, and the natural places the hands feel and the minds want to go for individual pianists. I urge you to improvise and improvise wildly for your own enjoyment as well as your education. It will only help in contemplating situations like the one before us in Liszt’s Hungarian Rhapsody no. 2.
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Re: Cadenza: Hungarian Rhapsody
Reply #3 on: December 18, 2008, 07:30:27 PM
Yeah I listened to Hamelin's cadenza when I began the piece, incredibly cadenza!! I don't think I'm anywhere near as good as him lols
Cheers for the advice :)
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