New Composition! Raaate! Please?

[silkatly]

thanks a bunch!

[sr_ludwig]

I do not have any gift to say if it is good or bad. But I just think that the tonal system have already been "done".

[perfect_pitch]

But I just think that the tonal system have already been "done".

And yet musicians today are still milking the tonal system and making millions...

Silkatly - I didn't mind it. Don't let anyone tell you the tonal system has been done, because most of the music on radio, TV, movies etc... are all tonal.

Plus they sound a lot better than the aleatoric crap and the dissonant screeching of Avant-garde and chance music and the rest of the rubbish.

Keep it up.

[retrouvailles]

Well, I think the tonal system has been "done" as far as using very basic harmony, but as far as using progressive tonality and other sorts of techniques, no, it has not been overdone, which is why many composers today write in a loosely tonal (STILL TONAL) idiom that still is something that is fresh and new and doesn't sound antiquated. The avant-garde, love it or hate it, is an equally valid route if one knows what to do with it, but the time for that, in its purest form, has already passed. That was what the 60s and 70s were for. People still incorporate avant-garde techniques into their music today, but that is not all that is being done in the "upper echelons" of classical music today. I'm talking to you, perfect_pitch. Yes, in radio, TV, movies, and other popular media tonal music is widely used, but that is not for the same audience as classical music is. And even a lot of music in the popular media is atonal. Just look at some famous film scores, such as some by Bernard Herrmann and even some of John Williams. There is plenty of atonal popular music out there, which goes to show how much you are wrong by saying that it is ALL tonal. Yes, people are still "milking the tonal system", but they are doing it WELL. A lot of composers today don't do that. They still use antiquated common practice harmonies that one would learn about as a first year composition student, if even that far. The best tonal composers today write something that doesn't just sound like it was written 150 years ago, but shows something that shows that music has progressed, but not forgotten where it came from. When one loses sight of where music came from, or where it is going, then the music becomes bad. Just look at the worst avant-garde composers (there are very good ones though) and the worst composers of tonal music alive today. I apologize for rambling, but this is a subject I feel very strongly on, for I encounter idiots from both camps (those who say that all avant-garde music [screechy, aleatoric crap, if you will] is absolute hogwash, and those who say that everything but avant-garde music is hogwash).

Oh, and regarding the composition, with all due respect, I didn't like it very much. It was very remedial and repetitive to my classically trained ears, but I'm sure someone who listens to pop music mostly would enjoy it, because that is who it seems to be aimed at.

[silkatly]

well i was hardly looking for debate, and I'm sure most people on a piano forum prefer classical music, but yes, this is definetely piano pop, and I wasn't pretending it was something else. thank you all for your input though.

[lostinidlewonder]

Experiment with rhythmic devices (try not to do everything on the strong beats) with your supporting hand will make things much more interesting. At the moment everything seems too blocky. Good work

[lontano]

thanks a bunch!

You seem to have taken a very direct approach in expressing you're feelings. Everything, for the most part, follows a standard major/minor path and the melody is derived rather obviously when it has a chance, but I believe it could be developed into at least a technique, which studied and worked on could be brought forward with even more memorable, powerful studies of expression.

Do all you can whenever you can!

Lontano

[richard black]

It has potential but as a keyboard solo it's a bit dull. Arrange it nicely and it could make an excellent impression, it seems to me.