Are popular classical musicians treated like "stars"?

[symbolism of l. ron]

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Your opinions are always welcome.

[gyzzzmo]

Alot of pretty people with a special skill are interesting for the camera. Call it 'stars' if you want to.

[richard black]

Yes, they are treated like stars, and have been for centuries. Read about Nancy Storace, for instance.

[nanabush]

Miley Cyrus does what she does, and I don't have a problem with that. 

But, when people say she's a "musical genius" they need to be very specific in what they believe defines genius though 

Each are 'stars' in their own respects.  I'm sure Yuja Wang doesn't get caught up in her fame like some pop singers do.

[vanbeethoven]

Miley Cyrus does what she does, and I don't have a problem with that. 

But, when people say she's a "musical genius" they need to be very specific in what they believe defines genius though 

Agreed!

Greetings

[timothy42b]

Miley Cyrus does what she does, and I don't have a problem with that. 

But, when people say she's a "musical genius" they need to be very specific in what they believe defines genius though 

If pp were still here, she would quote the Bible:  "Thou shalt not muzzle the ox which treadeth out the grain, for the laborer is worthy of his hire."

Miley IS a musical genius.  She earns billions for her employer.  (her recording companies, sponsors, etc.)  She is therefore entitled to the adulation.

Much as classical performers, who typically earn hundreds for their employers, are entitled to their commensurate adulation. 

[njalli]

Miley doesn't earn billions (1000000000) she earns millions (1000000)

[ahinton]

If pp were still here, she would quote the Bible:  "Thou shalt not muzzle the ox which treadeth out the grain, for the laborer is worthy of his hire."

I daresay that is true, but do you not think that such quotation would be mired in long paragraphs of other Biblically-orientated stuff? In any case, if she were still posting and she did just that, do you not imagine that this would attract responses reminding her that, among other things, (a) oxen do not tread out grain these days and (b) there are such things as trade and professional unions charged with looking after the affairs of employees?

Miley IS a musical genius.  She earns billions for her employer.  (her recording companies, sponsors, etc.)

That's a gross exaggeration, actually, but even to the small extent that it is true, how does such earning ability signify musical genius?

She is therefore entitled to the adulation.

Maybe, maybe not - but certainly not for musical genius that she does not possess.

Much as classical performers, who typically earn hundreds for their employers, are entitled to their commensurate adulation. 

Does it not occur to you that most performers' principal financial concern is to earn money for themselves?

Best,

Alistair

[vanbeethoven]

how does such earning ability signify musical genius?

Valid point.

Brief definition of genius: Someone who has exceptional intellectual ability and originality.

Does this apply to Miley's musicality?

You do not necessarily need to be a genius to earn a fortune. Ask the models.

Greetings

[gep]

how does such earning ability signify musical genius?

Well, were/are the best composers/performers also the richest (in general)?
Does earning ability signify genius in general? If that were true, bankers and such would prove every day and until this day and no doubt in years to come their utter genius in finance. Perhaps true, I would be far too stupid and foolish to find such efficient ways of evaporating such astronomical amounts of other people's money...

Brief definition of genius

Somebody here has a signof (roughly) stating that talent is being able to hit a target nobody else can hit, genius is being able to hit a target nobody else can see. Hmmm, sounds good

You do not necessarily need to be a genius to earn a fortune. Ask the models.

They do not earn it, they get it. Something different, I think!

quote the Bible

Thou shalt not tickle the mule unduly, for it will bray no end and upseth the parish....

gep

[njalli]

Being able to sing well, like Miley, doesnt make her a genius. It is just a random thing, who has a good voice or not, it has nothing to do with talent or anything else. By making her a musical genius you are comparing her to people like Beethoven, Mozart, Chopin, Brahms, Bach, Liszt and other. They were geniuses. I think no one today could accomplish the things they did (at least no one known today, many people may be even better then them. But they either haven't been discovered and most likely never will OR they have never played an instrument or have never discovered their talent).