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Offline goatmeal

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Technique/excercise book for piano?
on: January 16, 2010, 09:40:22 PM
Hi
 I was looking for a new technique and or exercise book and was wondering if anyone had any suggestions for what they found to be an overall good book and help them. It would also be nice if the book had some sort of dailey warmup excercises that would improve playing/technique over time.  I am not really looking for a book like hannon or a new etude but a book that could supply a well rounded technique if used.  If anyone plays Classical guitar it would be something like "Pumping nylon" by Scott Tenant
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Re: Technique/excercise book for piano?
Reply #1 on: January 17, 2010, 08:50:19 PM
Czerny wrote like a billion etudes. Some of them has to fit. Or any pieces by Clementi

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Re: Technique/excercise book for piano?
Reply #2 on: January 23, 2010, 12:37:10 PM
I agree about Czerny. A fair dose of his exercises is quite a delicious thing to do. I tend to feel that they seem centered around the technique needed in Beethoven sonatas, which wouldn't be surprising since he was a student of his.
Czerny was a prodigy who came to Beethoven as a nine year old and was accepted as a student. Later on, he taught Liszt, among others...

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Re: Technique/excercise book for piano?
Reply #3 on: January 23, 2010, 04:57:56 PM
I agree about Czerny. A fair dose of his exercises is quite a delicious thing to do. I tend to feel that they seem centered around the technique needed in Beethoven sonatas, which wouldn't be surprising since he was a student of his.
Czerny was a prodigy who came to Beethoven as a nine year old and was accepted as a student. Later on, he taught Liszt, among others...
Czerny did invent his studies based on Beethoven sonatas, here's Bernhard explaining some about it:

https://www.pianostreet.com/smf/index.php/topic,2429.msg21061.html#msg21061

And about Liszt in relation to Czerny:

https://www.pianostreet.com/smf/index.php?topic=19043.msg206384#msg206384
"By concentrating on precision, one arrives at technique, but by concentrating on technique one does not arrive at precision."
Bruno Walter

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Re: Technique/excercise book for piano?
Reply #4 on: January 28, 2010, 06:28:26 AM
Throw out all the the technical exercise books.  Their exercises are often not directly transferrable to the real world, they rob precious time from the study of serious piano literature of the masters, some of the independence of the fingers exercises are downright dangerous, and they concentrate on fingers only, not the entire playing apparatus.  It's far more beneficial to overcome technical difficulties as encountered in the actual repertoire, by creating your own exercises to help solve problems as you go along.  That's what actually builds technique.  The exceptions I would make would be all scales and arpeggios, which are indispensable to any pianist, as they can guide fingering in scalar passages in pieces.
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Re: Technique/excercise book for piano?
Reply #5 on: January 28, 2010, 07:07:24 AM
I agree with rachfan, you shouldnt be using technical excersises (like Hanon) if you dont know how you should use them.
Best is to use Czerny books for your technique and do some scales ;)

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Re: Technique/excercise book for piano?
Reply #6 on: January 29, 2010, 06:03:04 AM
We can always combine different ways as everybody has their own learning curves especially in learning how to play an instrument. So if technical works for you, why not? But if you find it so boring, try another approach. Might help big time.  ;)

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Re: Technique/excercise book for piano?
Reply #7 on: January 30, 2010, 03:30:40 AM
Like acundy says everyone learns different from my experiences it seems technical excercises work. I dont blow through them mindlessly, I try to pracice them slow and work on accuracy rather than speed. I wasn't really looking for cerny but i have't ever tried it so maybe i will. But i noticed a technique book on this site called "Fundamental principals of the Lestizicky meathod" It looks like it would help
Has anyone tried it/ or suggest somthing different?
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