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Offline kookaburra

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Gustav Mahler
on: February 12, 2010, 04:03:14 PM
I would like to know more about this composer and also get some sheet music. help?
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Re: Gustav Mahler
Reply #1 on: February 12, 2010, 04:32:22 PM
Wikipedia's article would be a good place to start.  If you're interested in researching him further, it also has a substantial bibliography of books about Mahler:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gustav_Mahler

IMSLP has some scores (but not the Piano Quartet, unfortunately):

https://imslp.org/wiki/Category:Mahler,_Gustav
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Re: Gustav Mahler
Reply #2 on: February 12, 2010, 11:44:17 PM
Yes, the piano quartet is the only thing I've ever heard of. 

There is the piano accompaniment for vocal pieces.

And one pianist arrangement his first symphony for piano.  There's a thread about it on the forum somewhere.
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Re: Gustav Mahler
Reply #3 on: February 13, 2010, 01:18:05 PM
symphony No. 5 available in www.imslp.org
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Re: Gustav Mahler
Reply #4 on: February 13, 2010, 06:32:07 PM
For piano?
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Re: Gustav Mahler
Reply #5 on: February 13, 2010, 06:56:33 PM
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Re: Gustav Mahler
Reply #6 on: February 13, 2010, 06:57:27 PM
Mahler symphonies on piano? It just cannot be transcribed well. Maybe a Beethoven symphony, but not a Mahler.

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Re: Gustav Mahler
Reply #7 on: February 13, 2010, 08:58:28 PM
No, but it's still something, still Mahler.  Although Mahler on piano which might not be Mahler, but it's better than nothing. 

I liked the first symphony transcription I heard.  I'm forgetting who did it.  But the 5th sounds interesting.
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Re: Gustav Mahler
Reply #8 on: February 13, 2010, 11:28:01 PM
The Mahler symphony transcriptions for piano, which as I recall were done by various folks, were purely functional, to help interested musicians hear how the pieces went in the days before recordings and when performances were few and far between. I don't think anyone ever expected them to be programmed in a normal piano recital.
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Re: Gustav Mahler
Reply #9 on: February 14, 2010, 12:51:41 AM
Mahler symphonies on piano? It just cannot be transcribed well. Maybe a Beethoven symphony, but not a Mahler.

Mahler himself recorded part of the 5th symphony on piano.

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Re: Gustav Mahler
Reply #10 on: February 14, 2010, 12:52:12 AM
Yes, the piano quartet is the only thing I've ever heard of. 

There is the piano accompaniment for vocal pieces.

And one pianist arrangement his first symphony for piano.  There's a thread about it on the forum somewhere.

I have honestly never met a person itnerested in music, who has only heard of Mahler on the basis of his piano quartet.  That is a remarkable achievement indeed!

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Re: Gustav Mahler
Reply #11 on: February 14, 2010, 01:03:28 AM
I looked it up in New Groves once.  I wanted to know if he had anything for piano.  It was just that one piece.  But then I realized there are the vocal accompaniments.
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Re: Gustav Mahler
Reply #12 on: February 14, 2010, 01:06:25 AM
Here it is.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0000859V1/ref=wms_ohs_product
Mahler: Symphony No.1 "Titan" Piano Solo Transcription, transcribed by Okashiro based on 4 hands version by Bruno Walter
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Re: Gustav Mahler
Reply #13 on: February 14, 2010, 10:07:15 PM
Seriously, who needs Mahler's piano music when you have his marvelous symphonies! His piano quartet isn't even that good of a piece, and the vocal accompaniments pale in comparison to their versions with orchestra.

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Re: Gustav Mahler
Reply #14 on: February 15, 2010, 05:55:43 PM
For piano?
yes. why, what other instruments did he write for?
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Re: Gustav Mahler
Reply #15 on: February 15, 2010, 09:07:29 PM
I didn't know piano transcriptions were available.


I would put Mahler with voice and the colors of the orchestra.  Not really piano so much.
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Re: Gustav Mahler
Reply #16 on: February 15, 2010, 10:30:35 PM
Yeah, he was a good pianist, but not a good composer for piano. His piano quartet contains some really awkward piano writing. You should all hear his piano rolls, which have some of his own transcriptions of his orchestral music.

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Re: Gustav Mahler
Reply #17 on: February 24, 2010, 10:33:55 AM
I must say I played the Friedman transcription the Minuet from the Third Symphony years ago and it worked perfectly. (Not easy though.) I think that score is on the IMSLP.

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Re: Gustav Mahler
Reply #18 on: February 24, 2010, 07:40:44 PM
When I was a freshman in college, having been involved as a student/performer of music for more than 13 years, I had never heard of Mahler until I took Psychology 101 from his grandson. My professor was the only one of the Mahler family who didn't play music. He often spoke of his siblings practicing violins and how the sound grated on his nerves while he tried to study.

 
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Re: Gustav Mahler
Reply #19 on: March 26, 2010, 06:18:27 PM
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