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Offline qoogla_55

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Toccata from Bach Partita No.6
on: September 11, 2010, 03:40:14 AM
Please don't mind my horrible play plus untuned piano and page flipping sound. Just a random play from my usual practice. My ornaments are not well-articulated in several occasions.
Would like some constructive feedback on how to improve this piece. Have played this piece for 2 weeks so rather new to this.
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Re: Toccata from Bach Partita No.6
Reply #1 on: September 12, 2010, 03:04:59 AM
Would like some comments  :-X

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Re: Toccata from Bach Partita No.6
Reply #2 on: September 13, 2010, 10:50:59 AM
I liked it ! 'Untuned' piano indeed, but not painfully.   I'm often seduced by an austere, rigid, interpretation of Bach's piano-music (it is not what you've chosen for, yet), though I can totally agree with the fact that some preludes and some fugues (I'm not sure of this toccata) can handle a great deal of freedom (I'm thinking Bach himself would have encouraged that we as interpreter take our freedom with his music).   I would say, half of the work is done.  Now, you could try to gain more confidence, it is as if you play this tocatta with a little bit of "reserve", I think you can be more fully involved; more articulation, a fuller clearer playing, more power (nothing overdone, no loudness or whatever).   Your toccata sounds for the moment as a stroll in the park, I would play it myself more as an intense hike on a hillside.  A few mistakes here and there, I wouldn't mind too much, but you could also choose for a change a more steady tempo, a more stable "drive" and try to create one (or two or three) big leaps of tension.   But, overall, I enjoyed it !
Kindly.

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Re: Toccata from Bach Partita No.6
Reply #3 on: September 14, 2010, 02:26:31 AM
Thanks Alessandro for the feedback. I really appreciate it. Going to use this piece for my ATCL Recital exams. Hope I don't fail. I will work on the 'leaps' as you have mentioned. Yes, you are right that I play with some "reserve" because I do have the "afraid" mentality of making mistakes. I guess you meant that I should play with more "soul" as well.
I do have an area of weakness which is to keep a steady tempo as well it seems. I think you are so kind to say that you enjoyed it as there's definitely much for me to improve on. Thanks anyway!
I have heard some versions of this toccata on youtube. It seems that the pianists tend to take on this piece with some "rubato". Any thoughts about this? Seems this toccata is quite an uncommon work since I don't really see many performances on this especially by any well-known or established pianists.
Gould approached this toccata with a rather slow tempo while there are other pianists who play this significantly faster. Its puzzling. I guess you're right since Bach would like us to have our style of approaching this piece. There's no right or wrong. Just a preferred style.
Then, there are 2 school of thoughts here: the austere/rigid or the "freer" style. Rather intriguing.

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Re: Toccata from Bach Partita No.6
Reply #4 on: September 16, 2010, 05:12:55 PM
I think alessandro put it very well.  It's very clear playing.  A little French, so to speak and not very german.  A more meaty touch.  Dont' play the 16th notes of the dotted 8ths in the prelude so staccato.  More "non legato" then staccato.  Watch out in the fugue that you differentiate the voices more when there are two in the same hand.  And the mordents ON the beat!  Don't do too much crescendo and diminuendo in the same measure.  Keep it in different levels of sonority without "turning up and down the volume".


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