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Offline drazh

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recognition of rythm
on: January 27, 2011, 10:25:37 AM
hello
is that necessary to:
 1.recognise rythm of a piece just by listening? eg :4/4 ,3/4,6/8 etc
2.differentiate major from minor mode by listening?
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Offline stevebob

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Re: recognition of rythm
Reply #1 on: January 27, 2011, 01:52:38 PM
Necessary for what?

While it's generally not possible to know the precise time signature of a piece by listening, most anyone with any musical training will recognize whether the rhythm is based on duple or triple meter.

Likewise, distinguishing between major and minor chords is a basic listening skill.  Within passages of music, though, the mode of a melodic line may be less obvious and subject to frequent changes.
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Offline musicluvr49

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Re: recognition of rythm
Reply #2 on: January 27, 2011, 05:41:38 PM
I think its pretty easy to differentiate between major and minor, they have very different sounds. Meter, however, has always been a problem for me. Like I can tell the difference between 4/4 and 3/4, but not between like 2/4, and 4/4. I actually don't thinik that is neccesary, but like the person above me said, its pretty easy to tell if the music is in duple or triple meter.
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Re: recognition of rythm
Reply #3 on: January 28, 2011, 05:31:43 AM
The labeling of a piece into a specific time signature such as 2/4 or 2/2 is more of a notational formality.  A piece in 2/4 could also be notated in 2/8.  No change in sound would result, only a change in the score's visual appearance. 

When listening, it is more beneficial to place the music within categories such as: duple, triple, quadruple, additive, pulsatile, or free.  Within metered categories one could specify the subdivisions as being simple (by 2) or compound (by 3). 
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Re: recognition of rythm
Reply #4 on: January 28, 2011, 04:05:10 PM
Sometimes a time signature could give an indication though of the composer's wishes when the rythm isnt so obvious, like in Chopin's 25/2.
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Re: recognition of rythm
Reply #5 on: January 28, 2011, 04:16:22 PM
Sometimes a time signature could give an indication though of the composer's wishes when the rythm isnt so obvious, like in Chopin's 25/2.

I understand your point, but that may not be the best example:  while the original French and English editions specify common time, the original German edition indicates cut time.
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Re: recognition of rythm
Reply #6 on: January 28, 2011, 04:54:27 PM
I understand your point, but that may not be the best example:  while the original French and English editions specify common time, the original German edition indicates cut time.

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Offline drazh

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Re: recognition of rythm
Reply #7 on: January 31, 2011, 05:16:30 AM
hi there
You mean that you can recognise number of beat/ bar .eg: 3/4 , 3/8 ,3/2  but you can not diferentiate  between them
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