Vivaldi's/Bach's music has an underlying 'hidden' rhythm

[animae]

I've listened to many pieces of music by Bach and Vivaldi. In fact all of them, while doing my homework. I've noticed that most of the pieces have some kind of underlying rhythmic hook. It's difficult to explain what I mean in words. It's normally in the style of:



These motives occur throughout most of their works. Both rhythmic devices occur in this piece though. Whenever I listen to any of their pieces I cannot resit myself from tapping the above rhythms to their works. It's irresistible. The fingers I use are  3, 2, 3, 4, 5 or 3, 2, 3, 4, 1. I add emphasis onto the 4 and 5 and prolong the 3 slightly. These rhythms are contagious and I often find I move my body while tapping them out too! This pieces are perhaps the best to demonstrate when I mean:

I can continue tapping these rhythms throughout any piece and I will always be in time with the music. It's satisfying when the 5th beat lands on a low cello note or cadence.

Is this common or I am the only person who does this? My friends think I'm weird and it's especially good when I tap out on a hard surface

 

[noambenhamou]

I see EXACTLY what you mean here. They are so close most people would not know the difference. 1st and foremost, you play how the composer wrote it. If it's not noted, then it's open to your own personal interpertation.

One thing I hate about piano competitions is that the winning pianist is usually not palying the way it is written. They don't stacatto where it says to, or vice versa. Judges seem to "admire" that on their PERSONAL tastes. A person who wins a chopin competition could easily be FAR from winning due to a set of different judges and the moods they are in that specific day. Plus, going off on a new topic, if grading pianists was going to be more objective, they should only HEAR, not see the pianists, EVER. I thin judges fall in love with the person and how the behave rather than the music the pianists produces. Right now, the Lang Lang act is cool and inspiring. Same with Yoyoma and his heavy breathing while he plays. - very COOL right now. If horiwitz was alive, and not known, he'd probably be critized for lack of emotion because he doesn't make alot of body gestures although body gestures have NOTHING to do with the mechanics of a piano which after all is a precution instrument. It's a drumset for crying out loud! Once you hit that key, that hammer is off doing its own thing. The only control is the speed of hammer. Greater speed the louder it gets.
I saw in a documentary that when Chopin played a long singing note he would move his whole are has the note is depressed in waves. Fact - in a recording, it would make NO differece. The question is, is music a theature or just pure music? I'm obviously one of those people - "spare me the act".

[lelle]

^lol what?

I've listened to many pieces of music by Bach and Vivaldi. In fact all of them, while doing my homework. I've noticed that most of the pieces have some kind of underlying rhythmic hook. It's difficult to explain what I mean in words. It's normally in the style of:

I don't really see how you can hear those rhythms in Bach's music. They look oddly syncopated to be baroque rhythms to me. Could you be more specific in where you hear this?