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drkilroy

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Ravel's Forlane

on: June 23, 2011, 05:04:51 PM

Hello,

I am having problems with playing Forlane from Le Tombeau de Couperin by Ravel. I am talking about these three measures:

How do you arrange hands here? Any tips about this place and the whole piece would be appreciated.

Thank you and best regards, Dr

P.S. How do you actually pronounce forlane?

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nanabush

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I haven't played it, but by the looks of the score, there is a bit of finger crossing in the middle... doesn't seem like it would be an issue. I don't think you'd need to distribute it among hands. I've played the Sonatine, and typically I haven't needed to rearrange notes for different hands, so hopefully this piece has some similarities that way!

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Re: Ravel's Forlane

Reply #2 on: June 24, 2011, 03:59:56 PM

Yes, yes, there is quite a lot of finger/hand crossing in this piece, but this is the most awful moment.

I cannot manage to get right the end of the first and the beginning of the third measure showed here. If someone has played it, it would be great if he or she could help me in this matter anyway.

Best regards, Dr

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Re: Ravel's Forlane

Reply #3 on: June 25, 2011, 12:22:18 PM

place your right hand on the keyboard in a natural position, then rotate it slightly clockwise and raise your index finger slightly. now gently tuck your left thumb underneath your left hand, and place your left hand slightly under your right, such that the knuckle of your left index finger is resting under the knuckle of your right index finger. this is the approximate position that you will be using for this passage.

I wouldn't redistribute any of the voices between the hands. in general, ravel wrote what he meant, in terms of writing everything intended for the right hand on the upper stave, and everything intended for the left on the lower (there are a few notable exceptions to this of course, but I don't think this is one). you could bump that e in measure 3 over to the left hand if you chose though.

my fingering is thus:

RH: 5 3 5 3 4 1 4 1 4 1 24 35 1 35 24 5 3 124

LH: 421 5 3 2 3 1 5 1 5 24 5 21 5 14

or something like that, I think. I have slightly larger than average hands, and there are a number of possible fingerings here.

I haven't played the whole piece, but I intend to at some point. alas.

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drkilroy

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Re: Ravel's Forlane

Reply #4 on: June 25, 2011, 05:25:08 PM

Thank you very much! This was very helpful.

Best regards, Dr

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Re: Ravel's Forlane

Reply #5 on: November 18, 2011, 08:18:11 PM

Hello,

I have another problem with this piece, namely with the E major section. There are a few lower mordents to be played with either fourth and third or fifth and fourth finger. They are not my most agile fingers. Could you give any hints or exercises for practicing mordents with finger combinations I mentioned?

Best regards, Dr

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