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Offline heatherlindsey

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Scales
on: July 07, 2011, 08:53:24 PM
I am a beginner piano player and I am having such a hard time getting the fingering right on scales and arpeggios.  Does anyone have advice on how to get the correct fingering to stick in your head?  I would really appreciate your knowledge!
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Online brogers70

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Re: Scales
Reply #1 on: July 08, 2011, 12:45:16 AM
Try this link to Bernhard's discussion of scales.

https://www.pianostreet.com/smf/index.php?topic=9211.0

Offline john90

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Re: Scales
Reply #2 on: July 08, 2011, 02:16:29 AM
As you are a beginner, I would suggest playing the scale slowly at an even tempo, and just concentrating on the fingering you have, perhaps using written music or your own written hints for each scale. Small amounts of regular practise over time should help a lot.

Offline sucom

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Re: Scales
Reply #3 on: July 08, 2011, 06:11:07 AM
Playing scales really slowly over and over, ensuring accuracy EVERY time you practise will gradually fix the fingering in your memory.  Also, you could try playing the scale in stages, gradually adding more notes.  For instance, using C as an example, play the first 5 notes up and down, remembering where the RH thumb turns under on F ascending and where the RH 3rd finger turns on E, descending.  Then you could try going up and down for just one octave.

One of the most common difficulties is the fingering around the end/beginning of each octave.  Going wrong here can cause your fingering to go haywire!  Is it 4 or 3?  Keep your eyes on the music and not on your hands and follow the fingering rigidly, ensuring you are accurate EVERY time.

Another problem I have found with students is that, due to notes being written very closely together, looking down at their hands causes their eyes to lose their place in the music.  To get around this, I have sometimes written the notes of the scale on paper, putting the RH fingering above the letter names and the LH fingering below.  This has helped some students.  I also think it is worthwhile to try to NOT look at your hands, but follow the notes as closely as you can and 'feel' your way through the scale.  In general slow, regular practice is what will bring the best results.

Offline casaet

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Re: Scales
Reply #4 on: July 08, 2011, 03:10:02 PM
Brogers, thanks for the link. Bernhards explanation of these methods is really good, as everything else I have read by him. Now I wonder what other treasures of Bernhards writings are hidden in this forum. So far I have bookmarked two of them, but to get a complete set of links here would probably be impossible. One can of course use the search engine, but it is not easy to know what to look for. Some good solution for this problem would be very much appreciated. Having everything in a book would be nice, but too much to hope for.

Offline pianisten1989

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Re: Scales
Reply #5 on: July 08, 2011, 03:21:57 PM
the "rule" for white keys (except for F and B) is that the 4th finger should be next to the main tone. In c the forth finger is on d in left and Bb/b in right. In d Lh. is on c/c# and e in right hand... and so on. Doesn't work on black keys or in f or b though...
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