Piano Forum

New Piano Piece by Chopin Discovered – Free Piano Score
A previously unknown manuscript by Frédéric Chopin has been discovered at New York’s Morgan Library and Museum. The handwritten score is titled “Valse” and consists of 24 bars of music in the key of A minor and is considered a major discovery in the wold of classical piano music. Read more >>

Pages: [1] Go Down

Topic: Kreisleriana (Read 7979 times)

moderatocantabile

PS Silver Member
Newbie
Posts: 2

Kreisleriana

on: July 08, 2011, 05:41:42 PM

Hi everyone

I'm almost finished learning this piece and am trying to memorise it. It seems Brahms and Schumann's compositional language is completely different from Chopin or Liszt, and the slow passages are always harder than they look. So I have a big problem with the opening theme of the second piece (Sehr innig und nicht zu rasch). It has multiple voices so the overall sound is not reliable. And the fingering is SO uncomfortable..when I follow each voice it's fine and melodic, but when they join together it fails to flow.

anyone who has learnt the piece please give some tips! or comments on Kreisleriana in general are also welcomed.

Logged

martinrdb

PS Silver Member
Newbie
Posts: 8

Re: Kreisleriana

Reply #1 on: March 03, 2013, 01:34:04 PM

I am certainly no expert but do try to play this set from time to time. For the 5th and 6th full bars in no.2 Sehr innig, I play the inner part in thirds or sixth with my left hand (I am sure I saw that suggestion in an edition somewhere).

I have also given up trying to play the Noch schneller ending of no. 3 as written and redistributed the notes between my hands so that they do not get in the way of each other. This means that the phrasing (as shown by the slurs) is emphasised; the descending octaves at the end, I no longer play in one hand, but with the lower note of all except the first octave in my left hand.

It is certainly easier to get the musical effect this way.

Others might object, in which case, I too would be interested to hear their point of view.

Logged

j_menz

PS Silver Member
Sr. Member
Posts: 10148

Re: Kreisleriana

Reply #2 on: March 03, 2013, 10:48:16 PM

Quote from: moderatocantabile on July 08, 2011, 05:41:42 PM

So I have a big problem with the opening theme of the second piece (Sehr innig und nicht zu rasch). It has multiple voices so the overall sound is not reliable. And the fingering is SO uncomfortable..when I follow each voice it's fine and melodic, but when they join together it fails to flow.

What do you mean by unreliable? The fingering here should be comfortable; if it's not, you're using the wrong ones.

Do you have any experience with polyphonic pieces generally?

Logged

"What the world needs is more geniuses with humility. There are so few of us left" -- Oscar Levant

mousekowski

PS Silver Member
Jr. Member
Posts: 86

Re: Kreisleriana

Reply #3 on: March 05, 2013, 10:49:39 PM

For No.2 Sehr Inning, I take the bottom notes of the last three RH octaves in bar 1 with my left hand. This allows my RH to play the top notes much more legato.

The sf at the beginning of bar 2 is a weird effect. I try not to overdo it.

Logged

Currently working on:
Beethoven Emperor
Bach Goldbergs

Sign-up to post reply

Pages: [1] Go Up

For more information about this topic, click search below!