meaning of the double e notes and how to play ?

[tiago_666]

Hello,
I would like to understand the meaning (in the start of the piece) of the double E note
and "Semiquaver" and a "Quaver Dotted"

And what about playing ??
Should i play the Semiquaver or the quaver or both?
If i nust play both why not put the two of them in just one note ?

Thank you very much...

[rmbarbosa]

Of what piece? May you specify better?

[tiago_666]

The piece attached to the message: michael nyman the heart asks pleasure first

Thanks.

[nystul]

The reason both stems aren't written on the same note (as it is in the left hand) is that the dot would then be a source of confusion.  As written it is very clear that the dotted note is the long one in the top line and the alto line is a series of sixteenth notes.  The interpretation for left hand and right hand should be the same:  you only strike the double notes once, but you hold it for the longer value while continuing to play the running line underneath it based on the shorter value. 

[tiago_666]

the question still persist...
analyzing the left hand i question:

Why the first note is a Semiquaver and a Crotchet ?
Why not Just only a Crochet ?
Why two notes?...

Thank you again!

[keypeg]

Imagine that there are two voices singing.  The higher one is a tenor, and the lower is a bass.  The tenor's voice is stems up and the bass' voice is stems down.  The tenor is singing the two stems up C's, and the tenor is singing the stems down C's and all the other notes.  The two singers happen to meet on those C's.

[tiago_666]

I understand perfectly your example but...
This is just piano...

Why not Just only a Crochet ?
Pragmatic ?

[nystul]

Although it is just one piano there are indeed 4 voices, or 4 moving lines, or whatever you want to call it.  The same pitch can have a different role in different voices.  Your job is to interpret the voices in combination.  Try playing each voice separately.  Then play the whole thing together and listen for the individual voices.

[tiago_666]

Sorry my ignorance, but what about the attached file?
1 voice - 2 voices ?

[loops]

Sorry my ignorance, but what about the attached file?
1 voice - 2 voices ?

To me:

It's in the relative loudness and finer touches that you hear one or two voices. So the first I'd play with 2 hands and it *really* would sound different to the second played with one, even though the notes on the score are the same. Typically the left hand is softer... try it with one hand getting the middle 2 notes of every set of four much softer than the outer two, it's hard!! Repeated over several measures, the overall effects are radically different.

[tiago_666]

I am sorry but i am not convinced...

[nystul]

When you play forte vs. playing piano it is a completely different tone.  The forte is a much brighter sound and the piano more subdued and mellow.  With such contrast in dynamics it will sound like two separate ideas interlocking with one another.  I'd say a call and response sort of thing. 

[loops]

When you play forte vs. playing piano it is a completely different tone.  The forte is a much brighter sound and the piano more subdued and mellow.  With such contrast in dynamics it will sound like two separate ideas interlocking with one another.  I'd say a call and response sort of thing. 

I agree.  Of course, if play all the notes with the same touch (like a beginner might) then you won't hear any difference. But the two different groupings in the two notations tell you to play them as different voices, or not, respectively.

all best