a stab at a partial answer:- ultra-cheap lessons- promise magic (play piano like a master in 10 hours)- have a fancy, professional looking web-site since people can't distinguish package from content- use big sophisticated music-words so you sound like you know something- use simple words that make you accessible- play a signature piece that sounds much harder than it is- play an easy version of "beloved music" so the listener will hear what isn't there
And why would you do that? All my teachers had the finest of education.
And yet you're still a condescending twat??? What happened?
Oh dear, I seem to have rattled some cages.
keyboardclasses response had a bitter ring to it. However KBC may have missed the intent of the original post.In the realm of emails and forum posts where there are no body language or facial queues as to the intent of the writer it is very easy to be offended by something that was not intended that way. Calling someone a moron however is unequivocally offensive.
This would probably be fair if it were not for the fact that the majority or KBC's responses end up offending someone and are generally seen as condescending and rude.
In response to my post in this thread - I was taught by one of the best to always seek out the best and I took his advice.
Two things are hard to define.- what "the best" (or even good) is- what "qualified" may mean
So go for the worldclass performer. If they're a poor teacher make sure you're a good learner.
- create your own pseudo-science to support your erroneous notions
Personally, I took the time to study performance to advanced level at a music college. If you want to make insinuations about non qualified teachers, start with those who didn't even bother doing so.
Like me for example hahahha - you know how i'm always bringing down the quality here with my psuedoscience.. and only have students because I lie to them day in and day out based on assumptions that I make without thoroughly testing them and discussing them with other advanced pianists..
Personally, I took the time to study performance to advanced level at a music college.
Anyone with a background in the subject is warmly invited to actively look for any erroneous applications of science in my blog and to expose them, should any exist.
I can see that at a later stage, but not for a beginner who has never had lessons and maybe never played an instrument. A beginner needs to get foundations in everything: how to sit, how to move, how to practice, how to read, what reading means. That needs a certain kind of teacher who is aware of these kinds of goals. The beginner does not yet have the means to know how to practice, what type of thing to pay attention to, etc. This "how" is what makes the student a good learner.
quoting: A beginner needs to get foundations in everything: how to sit, how to move, how to practice, how to read, what reading means. That needs a certain kind of teacher who is aware of these kinds of goals. The beginner does not yet have the means to know how to practice, what type of thing to pay attention to, etc. This "how" is what makes the student a good learner.If you find a teacher like that it's purely by luck. Qualifications just give you the edge.
I disagree. The beginner knows nothing. The teacher can tick all the right boxes and still be inadequate. It's all down to luck which is why I think a student should try as many teachers as possible. A famous concert pianist I had the privilege of a lesson from said as a child his father dragged him round all the best teachers in Chicago till he found what he thought was the best.
If the teacher says his goal is to get you to play these fancy pieces in this wonderful way, and shows off how great his own playing is --- well, he isn't aiming for those important things.
Which in no way makes one a scientist. To go spouting off about science with no qualifications in the subject is pretty poor pedagogy. I wouldn't go to a doctor who only had a music degree - even if he was a postgrad! And let's not forget here, we are dealing with peoples' health when handling piano technique.So we mere mortals with no science 'background' just have to accept your precepts? Sounds like witchcraftery to me!ajs, with a diploma on the wall you at least have proof that you can do an entire concert programme successfully. And surely it shows some respect for your profession?
I studied mechanics.
Words are very cheap- especially libellous ones made without substantiation.
Yeh, to 'A' level.
Jeez, any one who reads all that certainly does need to get out more!
the nature of physical possibility
!?? pull the other one!
Anyone can type your kind of tripe! Maybe I need a pseudo-science of my own?
You tend to talk a lot about the problems with generalisations and assumptions and I tend to agree. However, you have made a HUGE one here, yourself. The above does not follow at all. All good teachers are aiming to teach students to play pieces well. A teacher demonstrating ability to play the instrument is in no way a warning signal and neither does it display misplaced priorities. If anything, I'd be more wary of teachers who are so lost in physical issues, that they have lost sight of the fact that the reason for everything is supposed to be that it contributes to playing music well.
I was referring to a particular attitude which apparently didn't come across.
I was thinking of a scenario that happens all too often and those who have encountered it would recognize it. When we begin on an instrument, a large part of the effort has to be on things like how to sit, move, how to learn how to read music, how to approach pieces. Although it happens within the context of pieces, almost with the pieces being the vehicle for those skills, the larger focus is on those skills. The teacher should have some kind of underlying map of the skills that he is building. If the idea is mostly about pieces, without this underlying idea, that is something I would not have as a student. At the extreme you get the attitude that says "You can play any piece that you want and I'll tell you the right and wrong notes." with nothing getting developed in any kind of systematic way whatsoever. Adult students beginning for the first time as adults are especially likely to encounter this.
Haha genius! Pianoplayjl: you are very young. Just study music seriously. If you are seriously studying music there will inevitably appear one or two students, maybe friends, friends of friends, or children of friends. You'll probably teach those one or two students for a few months/years. You'll make your experiences, and they as well. You will slowly grow into the business from there.