Prokofiev's sonata is music???

[Spatula]

I'm afriad to say, I don't like Prokofiev.

At first looking at his name, I'd thought he'd be some sort of counterpart of Scriabin...or Myakovsky.  But no..

I don't understand his sonatas...they're so
grey sounding.

[dj]

listen 2 his concertos

[Spatula]

His first one and third are listenable, more so than bartok... I don't even like the Bart 3 hahahah..

I hope Prokie didn't write any violin music...probably sounds like a dying cat.  

[dinosaurtales]

Well, I'll be the first to admit that Prokofiev is an aquired taste.  His sonatas are definitely for serious (!) pianists, and have a *nasty* aspect to them.  Definitely not the kind of light music you put on in the background as you putter around the house.  But they are highly structured, and you can get to like them as you know them better.

Kind of like red wine, it takes some tastings that don't really appeal, then one day you  (might) like it.

That said, there is no hard and fast rule that says you have to like the stuff.

[DarkWind]

Listen to the 7th, particularly the 3rd movement. It's pretty cool. Also, he wrote quite some violin music, including a violin concerto. It's pretty good.

[liszmaninopin]

Which sonata are you referring to?

I personally love the sonatas-I hope to play a number of them someday.  My favorites are #'s 3, 4, 7, and 8.

[chopiabin]

I finally got a recording of the concerti, and I really love them. I have only listened to the 2nd and the one for left hand (the 4th, I think), but they are so amazing - they are so different and modern without being inaccessible.

[Tash]

His first one and third are listenable, more so than bartok... I don't even like the Bart 3 hahahah..

I hope Prokie didn't write any violin music...probably sounds like a dying cat.  :P

YOU DON'T LIKE BARTOK3????? OMG you're crazy how can you not like it?!!!  it's so beautiful! and bartok is the bomb in general agh craziness.
and prokofiev is bril too- listen to his orchestral works, like cinderella, peter and the wolf, any of his waltzes- i love op.91 omg i love prokofiev. but then again i like stuff that doesn't make sense....

[dinosaurtales]

Listen to the 7th, particularly the 3rd movement. It's pretty cool.

oh yeah!  it's in 7, so it's like a jazz piece!

[Spatula]

YOU DON'T LIKE BARTOK3????? OMG you're crazy how can you not like it?!!!  it's so beautiful! and bartok is the bomb in general agh craziness.
and prokofiev is bril too- listen to his orchestral works, like cinderella, peter and the wolf, any of his waltzes- i love op.91 omg i love prokofiev. but then again i like stuff that doesn't make sense....

You say it just like the Ikea guy (You feel sorry for dat lamp? You crazy!)

wait...Australians don't have furniture from Finland.  They go to the Big W (aka Walmart in North America).
or woolworths... (wow I learn more from travelling than actually sitting in some dumb social studies class)
and eat vegemite (unheard of in Canada and US) with toast:

We're happy little Vegemites

As bright as bright can be.

We all enjoy our Vegemite

For breakfast, lunch, and tea.

Our mother says we're growing

stronger every single week.

Because we love our Vegemite.

We all adore our Vegemite.

It puts a rose in every cheek!

well it didn't put a rose on my cheek...more of a greenish ... (I used to love this stuff as a kid back then...but it's been so long since)

No, the Bart 3 is okay, not superly great, but it's definitely more pleasing than the 1 and 2nd PCs.

[Spatula]

I never heard any of the aussies sing this whilst I was there:

Waltzing Matilda

Oh there once was a swagman camped in a billabong
 Under the shade of a coolibah tree
 And he sang as he looked at his old billy boiling
 Who'll come a waltzing Matilda with me

 Chorus

 Who'll come a waltzing Matilda my darling
 Who'll come a waltzing Matilda with me
 Waltzing Matilda and leading a water bag
 Who'll come a waltzing Matilda with me

 Down came a jumbuck to drink at the water hole
 Up jumped the swagman and grabbed him with glee
 And he sang as he stowed him away in his tucker bag
 You'll come a waltzing Matilda with me

Chorus

 Down came the squatter a riding on his thoroughbred
 Down came the troopers one two three
 Whose is that jumbuck you've got in the tucker bag
 You'll come a waltzing Matilda with me

Chorus

 But the swagman he up and he jumped into the water hole
 Drowning himself by the coolibah tree
 And his ghost may be heard as it sings in the billabong
 Who'll come a waltzing Matilda with me

(psst...maybe Prokie wrote this when he was shipwrecked and went to ayers rock after a long trek...and made a boat of leaves and got back to europe)

Hey can you find me some sheet music for this? I want to know the tune...and how it goes...sounds um familiar ...but can't recollect.

[Spatula]

Btw...how do you pronounce this dudes name?

PROKOFIEV?

I say: pro-kov-yeah-f.

[brewtality]

I never heard any of the aussies sing this whilst I was there:

Waltzing Matilda

Oh there once was a swagman camped in a billabong
 Under the shade of a coolibah tree
 And he sang as he looked at his old billy boiling
 Who'll come a waltzing Matilda with me

 Chorus

 Who'll come a waltzing Matilda my darling
 Who'll come a waltzing Matilda with me
 Waltzing Matilda and leading a water bag
 Who'll come a waltzing Matilda with me

 Down came a jumbuck to drink at the water hole
 Up jumped the swagman and grabbed him with glee
 And he sang as he stowed him away in his tucker bag
 You'll come a waltzing Matilda with me

Chorus

 Down came the squatter a riding on his thoroughbred
 Down came the troopers one two three
 Whose is that jumbuck you've got in the tucker bag
 You'll come a waltzing Matilda with me

Chorus

 But the swagman he up and he jumped into the water hole
 Drowning himself by the coolibah tree
 And his ghost may be heard as it sings in the billabong
 Who'll come a waltzing Matilda with me

(psst...maybe Prokie wrote this when he was shipwrecked and went to ayers rock after a long trek...and made a boat of leaves and got back to europe)

Hey can you find me some sheet music for this? I want to know the tune...and how it goes...sounds um familiar ...but can't recollect.

You should have gone to a wallabies tri-nation match. The crowd always sings it.

[Spatula]

You should have gone to a wallabies tri-nation match. The crowd always sings it.

I bought their "officiating" jersey/golf shirt...quite nice and I got it at FOOTY store by Darling Harbour...the shopping area (not the rocks..but just by that monorail...arrghh! I can't remember now)

[Clare]

Hey, man! We do so too have crazy Finnish furniture from Ikea in Australia. And we're all forced to sing Waltzing Matilda in school all the time.

Mmmmm........vegemite...........yum.

Anyways, even if you don't like Prokofiev so much, you must admit the boomy Montagues and Capulets bit from Romeo and Juliet is a good thing to get you out of bed in the mornings.

[dinosaurtales]

Dance of the Knights is pretty hot, too!

[Tash]

i don't think i've ever been into Big W in my life. and yes we have Ikea they advertise it all the time- though i've never been there either cos i don't buy furniture.
and you sing waltzing matilda in drunken nationalistic moments, can't say i've done that recently either...

more prokofiev that is bril- the stone flower, love for three oranges, lieutenant kije, alexander nevsky- my god how can you not like prokofiev????

i pronounce it pro-kof/v-ee-ev

do you like stravinsky? he's my fave:D

[Rob47]

Prokofiev is the shizznat!

your friend
Rob

[JK]

http://Spatula wrote:

I hope Prokie didn't write any violin music...probably sounds like a dying cat.  

Listen to the second movement of the second concerto, I guarentee this will change your mind!

[liszmaninopin]

the finale of the second concerto is incredible.  Virtuoso pianism and a very powerful, lyrical melody.

[Spatula]

Okay give me the:

name of the composer (given: Prokofiev)

opus #: ?

title of piece: ?

Then I'll borrow the CD from library.

of this 2nd concerto you're talking about

[Spatula]

i don't think i've ever been into Big W in my life. and yes we have Ikea they advertise it all the time- though i've never been there either cos i don't buy furniture.
and you sing waltzing matilda in drunken nationalistic moments, can't say i've done that recently either...

more prokofiev that is bril- the stone flower, love for three oranges, lieutenant kije, alexander nevsky- my god how can you not like prokofiev????

i pronounce it pro-kof/v-ee-ev

do you like stravinsky? he's my fave:D

Fine I'll give him another shot...
he's russian right? I dunno, if I don't bother to know the composer's nationality (which is not important), for some reason I haven't put much patience in their works

causo ipso facto... then of course I haven't heard much of them..

I'm trying to listen to Mr Pete and the Wolfie

And I'm listening to shostakovhich, not Stravinsky at this momento...

[Spatula]

Okay...after listening to Sorabji,

Prokofiev's works is now considered music..  

(in my tastes anyways)

[liszmaninopin]

Well, under composer Prokofiev, these are some of my favorite pieces of his in which the piano is either solo or plays a prominent role:

Piano Concerto #1
Piano Concerto #2 (especially)
Piano Concerto #5
*don't remember opus numbers, but just look on the discs of Prokofiev music, they will just say "Concerto #_" or something like that.*

Piano Sonata #3
Piano Sonata #4
Piano Sonata #7 (especially)
Piano Sonata #8 (especially)

Toccata, op. 11

Also, if you're interested, check out the Visions, op. 22 (I think).

[dinosaurtales]

and Opus 4 #4 Suggestion Diabolique is fun.  It's over in 2 minutes and it'll make you laugh!

[Spatula]

ummm okay

[Spatula]

HOLY COW! PROKOFIEV'S SONATA NUMBER 6 & 7 BLEW ME AWAY!

(don't say it: Oh Spatula, I said so!)

[Tash]

see you can't dismiss composers til you've heard lots of their pieces!

[Spatula]

are you really tash? what happened to your account?

[DarkWind]

HOLY COW! PROKOFIEV'S SONATA NUMBER 6 & 7 BLEW ME AWAY!

(don't say it: Oh Spatula, I said so!)

Oh Spatula, I said so!

Anyways, want the sheet music for them?

[Spatula]

Even though I like his music...I don't think I'd be prepared to play it in public....they'd think I'm drunk...say playing the first few bars of Sonata 6 1st movement.

But I actually get the feel of it now and understand in some instances why Prokie put discord instead of concord of the chords.

plus his music has rhythms all over the place...and I'm terrible at counting (I'm already having trouble with the middle part of fantasie impromptu trying to get all the trills in the right time)

but thanks though dark man!

[liszmaninopin]

I'm glad to hear that you enjoy those sonatas.  The funny thing is, I don't really care for Sonata #6.  I love #7, though.

[Spatula]

I wanna hear 7 again...

6 is in my head...

[maxy]

Why the hate for the 6th sonata?
Come on! Anyone should at least appreciate the 4th movement!

[Spatula]

Why the hate for the 6th sonata?
Come on! Anyone should at least appreciate the 4th movement!

Boo yeah...that's what made me say "WOW!"  

[Piazzo22]

Prokofiev´s piano sonatas!!!!
I love them so much!!! He´s MY composer.
And the violin concertos, and the violin sonatas, and the symphonies, ROMEO AND JULIET (listen to her death) it´s sooooo moving! and at the same time strange like death.

To me, he´s the most sensitive composer ever!

[maxy]

Most sensitive? 
I am not sure Prokofiev would have appreciated the compliment! 

[dinosaurtales]

Sensitive?  Hm.. Probably not the word.  In Prokofiev's own words "I strangled every melody I ever wrote" - about his sonatas.

[Piazzo22]

Yes, sensitive. His music expresses all kind of feelings. Some undescriptable with words.

[Piazzo22]

Sensitive?  Hm.. Probably not the word.  In Prokofiev's own words "I strangled every melody I ever wrote" - about his sonatas.

There´s still so much beautiful things to say in C Major.

[dinosaurtales]

Point made - and taken!

LOL!  That's one of my favorite quotes!

Mindy

[Piazzo22]

Point made - and taken!

LOL!  That's one of my favorite quotes!

Mindy

Listen to his 5th piano sonata. C Major. 

[Spatula]

Prokofiev...what acool sounding name

[Tash]

yeah i wish i had a russian surname that'd be cool and then i could actually pretend that i came from russia. well i'll just be content with my russian first name until i go to russia and find my hot russian musician and marry him mwahahaha

[Spatula]

yeah i wish i had a russian surname that'd be cool and then i could actually pretend that i came from russia. well i'll just be content with my russian first name until i go to russia and find my hot russian musician and marry him mwahahaha

and show him more than just your tiara

(repetitive motion again)

[dinosaurtales]

 

[Spatula]

Did Dinosaur want some show? Sorry?