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Re: The Importance of Classicla Music for Pianists
Reply #50 on: August 20, 2012, 08:27:10 PM
I know, but once you advance higher to the point of interpreting and have gotten past technique, we'll see your interpretation, which will be interesting.
See you in 10 years or so!  ;D

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Re: The Importance of Classicla Music for Pianists
Reply #51 on: August 20, 2012, 09:01:27 PM
See you in 10 years or so!  ;D

Haha, yeah. But even for the Cantabile you need to put some sort of interpretation. So ill be ready for that.

I have a question: Does it look bad if you only perform a part of a sonata, instead of the whole thing>
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Re: The Importance of Classicla Music for Pianists
Reply #52 on: August 20, 2012, 10:16:11 PM
I have a question: Does it look bad if you only perform a part of a sonata, instead of the whole thing>

For a student recital, it'd be fine, but for a real performance, no, you'd want to perform the entire thing.

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Re: The Importance of Classicla Music for Pianists
Reply #53 on: August 20, 2012, 11:17:57 PM
I like the trancendental etude in G minor. If there’s more stuff in this style by him, I’d be happy to listen to it?

Most of his music is either too jumpy, too thumby or too sweet for my taste. If you get what I mean?

Have a look through the works talked about here (easier than giving you a list, and perhaps enough background to focus you starting point):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Late_works_of_Franz_Liszt
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Re: The Importance of Classicla Music for Pianists
Reply #54 on: August 21, 2012, 01:23:10 AM
Have a look through the works talked about here (easier than giving you a list, and perhaps enough background to focus you starting point):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Late_works_of_Franz_Liszt
that's my favorite period for Liszt, seems his music got really dark  at times and i think it got so interesting once he joined the clergy towards the end of his life.  

like this one. man i love this thing, been having the 'itch' to play soemthing from that last 5 years or so of his life


as for the whole classical discussion i missed out on,  to the OP, yeah really it's all been said.  but i still can't quite understand what there isn't to like about this. i think this piece is mind-blowingly beautiful

no worris though we will try to help and suggest stuff you might like from another period, perhaps you will come around someday

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Re: The Importance of Classicla Music for Pianists
Reply #55 on: August 21, 2012, 01:31:00 AM
that's my favorite period for Liszt, seems his music got really dark  at times and i think it got so interesting once he joined the clergy towards the end of his life.  

like this one. man i love this thing, been having the 'itch' to play soemthing from that last 5 years or so of his life


as for the whole classical discussion i missed out on,  to the OP, yeah really it's all been said.  but i still can't quite understand what there isn't to like about this. i think this piece is mind-blowingly beautiful

no worris though we will try to help and suggest stuff you might like from another period, perhaps you will come around someday

I actually have a set of his late works published by the Liszt Society (includin Nuages Gris). Technically, mostly pretty straightforward, but musically VERY difficult. Not a happy chappy at the end.
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Re: The Importance of Classicla Music for Pianists
Reply #56 on: August 21, 2012, 01:55:35 AM
Yes, i like these pieces to some extent, but not wholeheartedly. It is nice and everything, but...

Here's the thing: Every time I think Mozart, I think little asian girl playing Mozart at age 2 months. Makes me think "wow, I suck" "I feel stupid". His music is very stickup, and sounds as if you play it TO show off. I wish it weren't like that. :(
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Rachmaninoff Moment Musicaux no. 3
Skrjabin Prelude op.11 no.4
Joplin The Favorite Rag

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Re: The Importance of Classicla Music for Pianists
Reply #57 on: August 21, 2012, 02:03:11 AM
I really like Beethoven's Waldstein and Hammerklavier. But that's as far as it'll probably get for now. What can I do with that in mind.
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Rachmaninoff Moment Musicaux no. 3
Skrjabin Prelude op.11 no.4
Joplin The Favorite Rag

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Re: The Importance of Classicla Music for Pianists
Reply #58 on: August 21, 2012, 05:07:00 AM
that's my favorite period for Liszt, seems his music got really dark  at times and i think it got so interesting once he joined the clergy towards the end of his life. 

like this one. man i love this thing, been having the 'itch' to play soemthing from that last 5 years or so of his life


OK, I admit it, I'm too picky. That was just sooo slow and dramatic.  What really got my attention were the strange sounds in the background. Mice or birds? :)

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Re: The Importance of Classicla Music for Pianists
Reply #59 on: August 21, 2012, 05:12:33 AM
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as for the whole classical discussion i missed out on,  to the OP, yeah really it's all been said.  but i still can't quite understand what there isn't to like about this. i think this piece is mind-blowingly beautiful


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Now why is it that when these guys write slow and dark, it becomes overly dramatic (for my taste that is)? When the Russians and Polish do it it's just lovely and melancholic?  

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Re: The Importance of Classicla Music for Pianists
Reply #60 on: August 21, 2012, 12:37:09 PM
Now why is it that when these guys write slow and dark, it becomes overly dramatic (for my taste that is)? When the Russians and Polish do it it's just lovely and melancholic?  
yeah maybe, it's still lovely, but i'm with you, i tend to like stuff from 'slavic' regions much more, heavy on the russian but yeah parts thereabouts too...

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Re: The Importance of Classicla Music for Pianists
Reply #61 on: August 21, 2012, 12:59:02 PM
yeah maybe, it's still lovely, but i'm with you, i tend to like stuff from 'slavic' regions much more, heavy on the russian but yeah parts thereabouts too...

Any slavic blood? :)

My preferences actually may have something to do with my nationality. I’m Finnish and we were under Russian rule for over 100 years (1809-1917). Even though there was a strong national movement, there must be a lot in common in our culture. I think we also share with Poland and other slavic countries the experiences of being stumped by others. For us first it was the Swedes for 500 years and then the Russians. Finnish people and culture are a mixture of the Scandinavian, Russian and the Northern tribe and something else (it is not completely known where we originally came from). Linguistics believe somewhere from the Ural area.

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Re: The Importance of Classicla Music for Pianists
Reply #62 on: August 21, 2012, 03:30:27 PM
Any slavic blood? :)
 
no but perhaps in a previous life.
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