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Offline outin

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Your dream repertoire?
« on: September 24, 2012, 07:36:01 AM »
It's really quiet at work today and I don't feel up to starting a new project...So why not start one of these silly threads  :P

If I could ever reach my goal of being a competent piano player, my dream repertoire would be something like this:

Chopin
At least one of the Ballades
Barcarolle
Sonata nr 3
Couple of the polonaises and nocturnes
Some of the Etudes and Preludes

Scarlatti
At least 20 of the sonatas

Scriabin
Couple of the sonatas (the early one in E-flat minor and at least one other)
A few of the etudes and preludes

Franck
Prelude, fugue and variation (organ work transcribed for piano)
Prelude, chorale and fugue
Couple of his fantasies

Hummel
One or two sonatas, maybe the 5th or 6th...

Then of course various pieces from other composers that I like.

So as you see it's a mission impossible for me (maybe in next life?), but one can always dream… :)

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Re: Your dream repertoire?
«Reply #1 on: September 24, 2012, 10:57:01 AM »
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Hummel
One or two sonatas, maybe the 5th or 6th...

...

finally! someone else sees how incredible these are! i swear i thought i was alone in my love and appreciation for him and his sonatas (i try to suggest them all the time when people ask for pieces and it seems to fall on 'deaf' ears, i can't understad why, and it seems when he is played or remembered it's for chamber and non piano concerti , i don't get it, his piano output was incredible, the writing son fine.

you should, if you have not already, listen to the piano concertos , all of them.


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Re: Your dream repertoire?
«Reply #2 on: September 24, 2012, 11:39:53 AM »
finally! someone else sees how incredible these are! i swear i thought i was alone in my love and appreciation for him and his sonatas (i try to suggest them all the time when people ask for pieces and it seems to fall on 'deaf' ears, i can't understad why, and it seems when he is played or remembered it's for chamber and non piano concerti , i don't get it, his piano output was incredible, the writing son fine.

you should, if you have not already, listen to the piano concertos , all of them.



I love his concertos :)

It is the writing that makes his piano music so spectacular. It's light and airy without being empty and shallow as with some other composers (not mentioning any names).

But it's also pretty difficult so not for me at the moment :(

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Re: Your dream repertoire?
«Reply #3 on: September 24, 2012, 11:49:05 AM »


But it's also pretty difficult so not for me at the moment :(
that just makes you normal. classical rep and his 'romantic' classical (he was a sort of 'bridge composer' sorta like beethoven but more conservative, choosing to play staying closer to tradition in the writting style but experimenting with pieces on a larger scale, extended forms, etc) rep in particular as a special kind of difficult. i think with his writting and also with direct carry over to apply in Mozart and Haydn and Beethoven, his etudes are of particular value in developing facility in executing the harder elements of the style

you should have a gander at them. i think most of the set if floating around the interwebs somehwere, ive been trying to find a good quality print/vintage score, has been very frustrating

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Re: Your dream repertoire?
«Reply #4 on: September 24, 2012, 12:01:57 PM »
that just makes you normal. classical rep and his 'romantic' classical (he was a sort of 'bridge composer' sorta like beethoven but more conservative, choosing to play staying closer to tradition in the writting style but experimenting with pieces on a larger scale, extended forms, etc) rep in particular as a special kind of difficult. i think with his writting and also with direct carry over to apply in Mozart and Haydn and Beethoven, his etudes are of particular value in developing facility in executing the harder elements of the style

you should have a gander at them. i think most of the set if floating around the interwebs somehwere, ive been trying to find a good quality print/vintage score, has been very frustrating


I tried to start on the op 67 preludes last spring but my teacher got frustrated. It was especially difficult for me because I was so stiff and just could not play in a relaxed style. Maybe we could try again this year,  since my technique is getting a little better now...

There are some scores available at di-arezzo, but I haven't ordered any yet.

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Re: Your dream repertoire?
«Reply #5 on: September 24, 2012, 04:55:50 PM »


i.e




You've got to be kidding? I am nowhere near the level of playing anything like these  ::)

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Re: Your dream repertoire?
«Reply #6 on: September 24, 2012, 07:28:02 PM »
Chopin: Etudes
Liszt: Etudes
Scriabin: Etudes
Alkan: Etudes
Von Henselt: Etudes
Rachmaninoff: Preludes  ;D
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Re: Your dream repertoire?
«Reply #7 on: September 25, 2012, 12:25:04 AM »
Bach

WTC Books 1 and 2 Complete
Brandenburg Concerto No.3 Piano Solo Transcription
All French Suites
All English Suites
All Partitas
Goldberg Variations

Mozart

Complete Piano Sonatas

Beethoven

Complete Piano Sonatas
Rondo a Capriccio Op.129

Schubert

Impromptus Op.90 and Op.142 Complete
Wanderer Fantasy

Weber

Invitation to Dance

Chopin

Complete Preludes Op.28
Complete Etudes Op.10 and Op.25
Nocturnes Op.9, 15, 27, and 48
Polonaise Op.40 No.1
Polonaise Op.53
Impromptus Op.29 and Op.51
Complete Scherzi
Complete Ballades

Liszt

Annes de Pelerinage Complete
Paganini Etudes Complete
Transcendental Etude No.10
Hungarian Rhapsodies Nos.2, 6, 10, and 11
Concert Etudes Complete

Schumann

Abegg Variations Op.1
Fantasiestucke Op.12 Nos.1 and 2
Romance Op.28 No.2
Kinderszenen Op.15

Mendelssohn

Rondo a Capriccioso Op.14

Brahms

Rhapsodies Op.79
Hungarian Dances Complete
Piano Sonata No.3
Klavierstucke Op.118
Intermezzi Op.117
Fantasien Op.116

Glinka

The Nightingale

Mussorgsky

Pictures at an Exhibition

Balakirev

The Lark
Toccata
Islamey

Scriabin

Complete Piano Sonatas
Complete Preludes
Complete Etudes
Complete Poemes
Vers la Flamme

Rachmaninoff

Complete Preludes
Complete Etude-Tableaux
Complete Moment Musicaux
Piano Sonata No.2

Debussy

Complete Etudes
Complete Preludes
Complete Estampes
Complete Pour le Piano
Complete Suite Bergamesque
Complete Children's Corner
L'isle joyeuse

Ravel

Complete Miroirs
Jeux d'eau
Complete Tombeau d'Couperin Suite

Gershwin

3 Preludes

Prokofiev

Complete Piano Sonatas
Complete Romeo and Juliet Suite
Toccata Op.11
Complete Etudes
Visions Fugitives Op.22
Sarcasms Op.17

Stravinsky

Firebird Suite (3 dances)
Petrushka Suite

I know, I need to reduce this list. 
Bach Prelude and Fugue BWV848
Beethoven Piano Sonata Op.13
Chopin Etude Op.10 No.4
Chopin Scherzo Op.31
Mussorgsky "The Great Gate of Kiev" from Pictures at an Exhibition

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Re: Your dream repertoire?
«Reply #8 on: September 25, 2012, 01:01:16 AM »
I know, I need to reduce this list. 

Why? You may not have them all at performance standard, but if you can do the harder ones on your list, a lot of the others will not be much work.

My dream list is waaaaaaay longer.
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Re: Your dream repertoire?
«Reply #9 on: September 25, 2012, 07:33:36 PM »
I didn't even start yet!
Bach Prelude and Fugue BWV848
Beethoven Piano Sonata Op.13
Chopin Etude Op.10 No.4
Chopin Scherzo Op.31
Mussorgsky "The Great Gate of Kiev" from Pictures at an Exhibition

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Re: Your dream repertoire?
«Reply #10 on: September 25, 2012, 11:58:15 PM »
I didn't even start yet!

Well best you do. Organise your list into stuff you can do now, stuff you hope to be able to do in a year, stuff you hope to be able to do in 2-3 years etc and GET GOING!!!
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Re: Your dream repertoire?
«Reply #11 on: September 26, 2012, 07:25:50 PM »
finally! someone else sees how incredible these are! i swear i thought i was alone in my love and appreciation for him and his sonatas (i try to suggest them all the time when people ask for pieces and it seems to fall on 'deaf' ears, i can't understad why, and it seems when he is played or remembered it's for chamber and non piano concerti , i don't get it, his piano output was incredible, the writing son fine.

you should, if you have not already, listen to the piano concertos , all of them.



Thank you so much for this post! I had never listened to any Hummel before, but your post sufficiently roused my curiosity to sample some of his piano sonatas.

They are outstanding, in so many ways  :o- quite unlike anything else I have heard thus far. I shall certainly continue to explore his repertoire.  :D
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Re: Your dream repertoire?
«Reply #12 on: September 28, 2012, 12:46:53 AM »
I didn't even start yet!

Lol you probably feel EXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXTRRRRRRAAAAAAAA salty.
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Re: Your dream repertoire?
«Reply #13 on: September 28, 2012, 01:18:37 AM »
Here's all the repertoire I want to learn that is too hard for me to attempt now  ;D

Fantasy in b minor op. 28 (Scriabin)
Vers la flamme (Scriabin)
Etude op. 8 no. 12 *both versions* (Scriabin)
Polonaise in c minor S.223/1 (Liszt)
Valse de l'Opera Faust (Liszt)
Etude Tableaux in c# minor op. 33 no. 9 (Rachmaninoff)
Sonata L'infortunée op. 26 (Ries)
Gavotte et Six Doubles (Rameau)
Sonata op. 39 mov. 4 (Kapustin)
Holberg Suite complete (Grieg)
Two Preludes op. 2 (Wyschnegradsky)
In the Garden (Balakirev)   -I could probably learn this one soon ;)-
Rhapsody in Blue (Gershwin)
The Fountains of Acqua Paola (Griffes)
The Sanctuary (Hofmann)
Sonata no. 4 (Ornstein)
Fandango (Soler)
Prelude and Fugue WTC 1 a minor (Bach)
El Polo (Albeniz)
El Fandango de Candil (Granados)

....and I could probably list much more, but this is good for now ;)

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«Reply #14 on: September 30, 2012, 04:56:34 PM »
It's really quiet at work today and I don't feel up to starting a new project...So why not start one of these silly threads  :P

If I could ever reach my goal of being a competent piano player, my dream repertoire would be something like this:

Chopin Ravel's Ondine
At least one of the Ballades Ravel's Scarbo
Barcarolle Ravel's Alborada del Gracioso
Sonata nr 3 Ravel's Oiseaux Tristes
Couple of the polonaises and nocturnes Ravel's Ma Mère l'Oye
Some of the Etudes and Preludes Ravel's Le Gibet

Scarlatti Ravel's Forlane
At least 20 of the sonatas Ravel's La Valse

Scriabin Ravel's Jeux d'eau
Couple of the sonatas (the early one in E-flat minor and at least one other) Ravel's Prelude
A few of the etudes and preludes Ravel's Pavane pour une infante défunte Bolero

Franck Ravel's Piano Trio in A minor movement I
Prelude, fugue and variation (organ work transcribed for piano) Ravel's Piano Trio in A minor movement II
Prelude, chorale and fugue Ravel's Piano Trio in A minor movement III
Couple of his fantasies Ravel's Piano Trio in A minor movement IV

Hummel Some guy named Verla
One or two sonatas, maybe the 5th or 6th... Verla's sonatine

Then of course various pieces from other composers Ravel that I like.

So as you see it's a mission impossible for me (maybe in next life?), but one can always dream… :)

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Re: Your dream repertoire?
«Reply #15 on: September 30, 2012, 05:14:21 PM »
Who the h... is Verla?  ;D

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«Reply #16 on: September 30, 2012, 05:30:15 PM »
Who the h... is Verla?  ;D

this is what happens when i keep crossing my hands to type

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«Reply #17 on: September 30, 2012, 05:34:28 PM »
this is what happens when i keep crossing my hands to type
I'm an idiot  :-[

But there actually is a place called Verla a few hundred km east, I once went there for a cool party weekend  ;D

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«Reply #18 on: September 30, 2012, 05:52:08 PM »
I'm an idiot  :-[

But there actually is a place called Verla a few hundred km east, I once went there for a cool party weekend  ;D

only once? mustn't of thought too highly of it - or are you just being reserved?

there's a tidbit of information on google about why the name - which i found interesting - but then again i could just be obsessed.


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«Reply #19 on: September 30, 2012, 06:41:09 PM »
I liked the Hummel Etudes -so they will be in my dream rep!

What Else -

Couperin -Too many pieces to detail
Bach/Busoni--Chaccone
Handel ----Harmonious Blacksmith
Scarlatti ---All The Ones Yuja Wang Plays
Mozart -----The 19 Piano Sonatas - Twinkle Star Variations -2 Rondos
Haydn ------E Minor Sonata -Eb no.62- -G Major
Clementi ----All his Sonatas
Beethoven --The 32 Piano Sonatas -Bagatelles -Eroica Variations
Schubert ----Bb Sonata  (D.V 960)-OP120 in A -NO 7 in A Minor -Impromptus
Field ---------Nocturnes
Chopin-------Berceuse -Scherzi -Ballades-Many Mazurkas -Sonata No 3 in B Minor -Preludes-...................Waltzes -Nocturnes---Impromptus
Brahms-------Hungarian Rhapsodies -Handel Variations
Glass ---------Trilogy Sonata -Etudes -Metamorphosis 1-5
Rachmaninoff - C#M Prelude -D Minor Prelude -G Minor Prelude
Tippet --------Sonatas
Janacek -------Sonatas
Shostakovich ---Preludes and Fugues
Stravinsky -----Sonata
Mussorgsky ------Pictures At An Exhibition
Mahler ------Symphony no 4 Piano Transcription


When a search is in progress, something will be found.

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Re: Your dream repertoire?
«Reply #20 on: September 30, 2012, 07:39:02 PM »
only once? mustn't of thought too highly of it - or are you just being reserved?


It is just a thing we arrange every summer and different places each time...Was fun though :)

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«Reply #21 on: September 30, 2012, 11:37:22 PM »
Clementi ----All his Sonatas

 :o There are SQUILLIONS of them.

Also, I'm a bit surprised that with all the Beethoven floating around, no-one wants to master the Diabelli Variations  :'(
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Re: Your dream repertoire?
«Reply #22 on: September 30, 2012, 11:47:34 PM »
I want to master every piece ever composed!


..nah, just kidding. I'm not that crazy.

I'd probably die happy having learned Chopin's Etudes to a reasonable standard.

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«Reply #23 on: October 01, 2012, 11:40:03 AM »
well we are dreaming, so i dream big.

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«Reply #24 on: October 01, 2012, 12:31:21 PM »
well we are dreaming, so i dream big.

imslp.org, complete works for piano.

But what about all the non public domain stuff? Nothing there?

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«Reply #25 on: October 01, 2012, 01:38:20 PM »
But what about all the non public domain stuff? Nothing there?
oh that's right!.

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Re: Your dream repertoire?
«Reply #26 on: October 01, 2012, 03:12:25 PM »
:o There are SQUILLIONS of them.

Also, I'm a bit surprised that with all the Beethoven floating around, no-one wants to master the Diabelli Variations  :'(

True -but you don't have to memorise them -you can do a Richter and play from the score as he did in later life -

I forgot the Chopin Andante Spianato -and the Diabelli Variations would be worth learniong -'tis true -
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«Reply #27 on: October 02, 2012, 12:21:47 AM »
True -but you don't have to memorise them -you can do a Richter and play from the score as he did in later life -

Clementi is actually eminently sight-readable (assuming one is a reasonably proficient sight reader), so to read through the lot should be quite managable.  I actually have this on my list of things to do.  8)
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«Reply #28 on: October 02, 2012, 12:27:23 AM »
...  I actually have this on my list of things to do.  8)
and don't forget to change your batteries on your smoke detector. 8)

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«Reply #29 on: October 02, 2012, 12:53:14 AM »
and don't forget to change your batteries on your smoke detector. 8)

My nose doesn't require batteries.  :P

Maybe I should do the Hummel sonatas instead (of the batteries, not the Clementi).  :-\
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«Reply #30 on: October 02, 2012, 01:31:09 AM »
My nose doesn't require batteries.  :P

Maybe I should do the Hummel sonatas instead (of the batteries, not the Clementi).  :-\
sounds solid.

i think thomas arne's stuff is included in my imslp comment but if not it needs to be. he wrote some pretty sonatas i'd love to learn the whole set of 7 (+1 if you count the one he 'did not write' you'd have to see the score for no  8 to see what i mean).


edit. just checked, he's on there. good. what a relief.
http://imslp.org/wiki/Category:Arne,_Thomas_Augustine

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«Reply #31 on: October 02, 2012, 02:05:00 AM »
sounds solid.

i think thomas arne's stuff is included in my imslp comment but if not it needs to be. he wrote some pretty sonatas i'd love to learn the whole set of 7 (+1 if you count the one he 'did not write' you'd have to see the score for no  8 to see what i mean).

Cool. Now in my (rather large) digital collection.

I must say the fingering in Sonata 8 is amusing. I don't have a 6th finger.  :(
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«Reply #32 on: October 02, 2012, 03:04:54 AM »
Clementi is actually eminently sight-readable (assuming one is a reasonably proficient sight reader), so to read through the lot should be quite managable.  I actually have this on my list of things to do.  8)

To me, Clementi is the worst to read:( I'm like half blind(astigmatism and poor depth perception) and stuff with melodies or fast notes in both hands just kills me. I don't even know what to do. My sight reading is ok for someone with poor vision, but I just hate practicing it so much. I am going to the doctor to see if I can get special music reading glasses. :)
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«Reply #33 on: October 02, 2012, 10:28:12 AM »
Cool. Now in my (rather large) digital collection.

I must say the fingering in Sonata 8 is amusing. I don't have a 6th finger.  :(
i think it's figured bass notation, based on the period and notation conventions it's the only thing that makes sense

http://www.wright.edu/~martin.maner/fig01.htm

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«Reply #34 on: October 02, 2012, 11:26:14 PM »
i think it's figured bass notation, based on the period and notation conventions it's the only thing that makes sense

Yeah, that looks correct.  I am NOT learning figured bass notation, though.  NOT NOT NOT!!!

Fortunately, bar 33 on appears to be the same thing figured out, so will start from there.  ;)
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Re: Your dream repertoire?
«Reply #35 on: October 03, 2012, 07:11:18 AM »
Bach:

- Every bloody piece

Mozart:

- Ronda Alla Turca
- K545

Chopin:

- Raindrops

Beethoven:

- Fur Elize
- Moonlight Sonata

Tchaikovksy:

- Swan lake
- Nutcracker

Funzies:

- Pirates of the Caribbean
- Harry Potter
- Lots of anime openings

May have forgotten some.

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«Reply #36 on: October 03, 2012, 10:50:07 AM »
Yeah, that looks correct.  I am NOT learning figured bass notation, though.  NOT NOT NOT!!!

Fortunately, bar 33 on appears to be the same thing figured out, so will start from there.  ;)
lol i haven't seen it 'ages' i remember learning it and having to apply it theoretically in written out realizations but it takes more than a bit of practice to really run w it.

it's funny though, it really is the 'original improv' it was not uncommon for musicians to be given a bass line with those little numbers and just simply to told to 'compose' the rest of it on the spot, many times as they played, you could call it the precursore to our modern fake books and the more commonly seen today 'chord symbols'.

i wish it were emphasized more in the standard performance training but i've yet to see it anywhere outside of a few good college level theory courses.

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«Reply #37 on: October 10, 2012, 09:04:12 PM »
Bach:

- Every bloody piece


you should follow it up with the sweat and tears