Ear training for student pianists

[eladelad]

Hi all,

I've already posted this in the student's forum, so I appologize in advance for making a double post, but I think this will be interesting for teachers as well...

I have put up a web site aimed to help pianists develop their "relative pitch"/"absolute pitch", and the relationship between the ear and the eyes in context of the keyboard.

I would love to here some feedback, here's the link:

https://earpiano.freehostingcloud.com/keyboard.html

Thanks in advance,
Elad.

[perfect_pitch]

Sadly enough - too easy... Got anything with a challenge???

[ajspiano]

Sadly enough - too easy... Got anything with a challenge???

As someone who does transcriptions I doubt you're going to find a "game" that provides enough of a challenge..

[rachmaninoff_forever]

Sadly enough - too easy... Got anything with a challenge???

Hahahahahaaahahha lol

[j_menz]

My pitch is fine, but I was hoping to learn to waggle my ears in time to the beat......

[perfect_pitch]

As someone who does transcriptions I doubt you're going to find a "game" that provides enough of a challenge..

AWWWWWWW...   

[lostinidlewonder]

Ur name perfect also give it away that this might be too easy for u

[ajspiano]

AWWWWWWW...   

Having said that, this one may at least pose something a little more challenging that interval recognition.

2 voice melodic dictation -
https://teoria.com/exercises/v2.php

[perfect_pitch]

Having said that, this one may at least pose something a little more challenging that interval recognition.

2 voice melodic dictation -
https://teoria.com/exercises/v2.php

Thanks AJ for the try, but way to easy... Saw this site years ago - it's okay, but nothing that gives me a challenge.   

[ajspiano]

Thanks AJ for the try, but way to easy... Saw this site years ago - it's okay, but nothing that gives me a challenge.   

To be honest I figured it would be..  I assume you would need something more like an entire fugue...  or a symphony.

[j_menz]

To be honest I figured it would be..  I assume you would need something more like an entire fugue...  or a symphony.

Bruckner's 5th, Mozart K543 and 550, Ives Symphony No 4, Saint Saens Symphony No 2, Beethoven Eroica....

Why not combine the two challenges. 

[perfect_pitch]

To be honest I figured it would be..  I assume you would need something more like an entire fugue...  or a symphony.

Well... I transcribed a three-part sinfonia by Bach while I was at University for an Aural exercise...

As for Symphony's... I transcribed a 6 minute orchestral piece for piano without any difficulty...

I'm bored... And anyway, I think Liszt beat me to transcribe the Eroica - his transcriptions are great, so there's nothing I could offer better than what he's already done.

[ajspiano]

As for Symphony's... I transcribed a 6 minute orchestral piece for piano without any difficulty...

I was thinking more along the lines of a transcription of the actual orchestral score for all concerned instruments. I don't find it at all difficult to turn a symphony into a piano work, though like you I don't suspect I'd do it better than Liszt..   there are of course works written post liszt though..

[perfect_pitch]

I was thinking more along the lines of a transcription of the actual orchestral score for all concerned instruments.

Nahh... I prefer to do them by ear, not by the score.

[ajspiano]

Nahh... I prefer to do them by ear, not by the score.

I'm not sure if you misunderstood..

I meant transcribe by ear, an orchestral work.. for orchestra.. so you actually have all the parts within the orchestra worked out by ear, and notated for the correct instruments.

..eroica has 19 individual parts I think, that should be a challenge enough..

[perfect_pitch]

Hey AJ... Not a bad idea... I could probably do it note for note, however with recording like these, it comes down to how well they were recorded.

I was listening to a version of the Moszkowski Piano Concerto one (3rd movement), and loved it. It was only two years later that I listened to a different version and realised that there was a harp in it, because the original recording didn't record that well.

That complicates things, and then of course, at the same time - I don't know how to notate for a lot of other instruments. Notes I can do, articulation? Not to great at that - you're sul ponticellos etc and other instrumental techniques, I'm not too familiar with.

I am however very comfortable with the piano, because I like trying to combine those instrumental sounds into what the two hands can do in front of a keyboard.

[keypeg]

I have seen programs like this before, where you type in answers on what you hear, and they are called "ear training".  When I train in a new skill, I practice or learn it in some way, and then later I might do some kind of test to check if I learned it.  These aps seem like tests checking what you can already do.  Everyone responding here has talked about it in terms of whether it's challenging enough, as if it was a test.  So are these things ear training at all?  Or are they tests? 

I did ear training a few years back.  It wasn't done like this.  So teachers, is this how you have your students learn to hear and identify intervals or pitches?  Or do you do something else?

[unholeee]

correct answers: 2 attempts: 106

thats a good... score.. right.