which digital piano should I buy , I only concern hammer action, key weight

[music_piano_ljy]

I use a casio px 130 before, not very good, the touch is not sensitive. I use different technique , but produce the similar sound.

Any body know which digital piano is more close to the real piano touch, this is the only thing I concern, nothing else.


PS: my original post is not accurate. Actually, not the "touch" . I want to  have a one which  represent the hammer action more realistic , and the weight.  For other features, like ivory, wood key, such fancy thing, I don't care.



Thanks  

[p2u_]

Any body know which digital piano is more close to the real piano touch, this is the only thing I concern, nothing else.

Cyprien Kastaris says some very good things about Yamaha AvantGrand (around 20.000 US$). He may have been paid well to do it, but I like the demonstration anyway.
Music is my wife. Piano is my girlfriend

Paul

[hfmadopter]

I suggest trying some of the Rolands with PHA III Ivory feel and their Escapement Action. I've played the Rd 700NX which has more features than most of us needs but a great feeling keyboard for a digital piano, for instance. That model has the above mentioned items as do others in their line up.  Also, Kawai from the MP 10 upward with wooden key cores and hammer action may suit you well. Even the lesser MP 6 is a nice piano.

If you need a piano in a wooden case I'd still look for those features, both companies offer those as well. iI just tend to look for portability.

[music_piano_ljy]

thanks . I want to say more. which one represent the hammer action more realistic ?  For other feature, like ivory, wood , such fancy thing, I don't care.

[Derek]

My Roland HP-302 is pretty good. I dunno when if ever digital pianos will faithfully reproduce the feeling of a real piano action unless they literally imitate the exact construction of a piano action and the only difference is the hammer hits something that detects speed instead of a string. Maybe some already do that. But the HP-302 isn't bad. Certainly enough to satisfy an amateur. If you want to be a concert pianist or something though...probably won't cut it.

[music_piano_ljy]

My Roland HP-302 is pretty good. I dunno when if ever digital pianos will faithfully reproduce the feeling of a real piano action unless they literally imitate the exact construction of a piano action and the only difference is the hammer hits something that detects speed instead of a string. Maybe some already do that. But the HP-302 isn't bad. Certainly enough to satisfy an amateur. If you want to be a concert pianist or something though...probably won't cut it.

thanks. I want to become pianist but I am too old to do that. Real piano is good but I live in apartment which I can't play the real piano

[music_piano_ljy]

I suggest trying some of the Rolands with PHA III Ivory feel and their Escapement Action. I've played the Rd 700NX which has more features than most of us needs but a great feeling keyboard for a digital piano, for instance. That model has the above mentioned items as do others in their line up.  Also, Kawai from the MP 10 upward with wooden key cores and hammer action may suit you well. Even the lesser MP 6 is a nice piano.

If you need a piano in a wooden case I'd still look for those features, both companies offer those as well. iI just tend to look for portability.

thanks. I heard from other people that the roland is not very reliable, is that true?   How is roland HP series compare to yamaha clp

[hfmadopter]

thanks. I heard from other people that the roland is not very reliable, is that true?   How is roland HP series compare to yamaha clp

The bottom line ? Go out and try every piano you you can get your hands on. Buy the one that feels right regardless of the price. Well to a point, you might not want that $20,000 one mentioned earlier.

Edit:
About your questions, I think you will be hard pressed to find a lot of bad reviews or info on the latest Rolands in the class we are speaking of or greater . Earlier lesser models had some key breakage issues and worn key top issues with the ivory feel. However the later iteration I'm speaking of gets very good reviews and positive comments. It's difficult to find bad comments about it actually or the Kawai MP 10 for that matter..

The CLPs have been around quite awhile, I'm not up on the new models listed at Yamahas site recently. They are solid instruments in general but several models to choose from. Again play before you buy, to my knowledge GH and GH3 are Yamahas best actions and that's dated back by several years now. You either love it or you don't.

You should find comparable models between Yamaha and Roland and Kawai out there someplace. Between all those pianos to choose from, I find it hard to believe you won't find one that will satisfy you beyond the performanc level of your casio PX- 130. I've played several Casio models and have not liked the action on any of the ones I played on compared to several of the above mentioned pianos I  tried. However, the closest in touch and feel to my own grand piano was that Roland RD700NX, that's the top keyboard I was offered a whack at playing and I was not interested in a console style piano or a $5000 Synth. It's general key down weight, spacing and feel were at least similar to my own grand. I doubt there exists an exact digital duplicate but I had no trouble adapting to the keys on that particular digital piano. I felt at home with it.. Pianos are like shoes, you find that one that fits and feels right, that's the one for you !! For me I had to hit that $2500 US level to find it and I played on a lot of digital pianos before I found that one..

[49410enrique]

Kawai. Any of the models w the rm3 grand piano action. I want one. Would have bought this but I was pressed on budget. Will upgrade though and when I do it will be along one of these

Btw this is not the rm3 action this one is older , awa grand pro-ii, and lower line. The new rm3 is supposed to be drastically improved and much better overall

[hfmadopter]

Kawai. Any of the models w the rm3 grand piano action. I want one. Would have bought this but I was pressed on budget. Will upgrade though and when I do it will be along one of these

Cool !! Kawai is top notch.

[music_piano_ljy]

The bottom line ? Go out and try every piano you you can get your hands on. Buy the one that feels right regardless of the price. Well to a point, you might not want that $20,000 one mentioned earlier.

Edit:
About your questions, I think you will be hard pressed to find a lot of bad reviews or info on the latest Rolands in the class we are speaking of or greater . Earlier lesser models had some key breakage issues and worn key top issues with the ivory feel. However the later iteration I'm speaking of gets very good reviews and positive comments. It's difficult to find bad comments about it actually or the Kawai MP 10 for that matter..

The CLPs have been around quite awhile, I'm not up on the new models listed at Yamahas site recently. They are solid instruments in general but several models to choose from. Again play before you buy, to my knowledge GH and GH3 are Yamahas best actions and that's dated back by several years now. You either love it or you don't.

You should find comparable models between Yamaha and Roland and Kawai out there someplace. Between all those pianos to choose from, I find it hard to believe you won't find one that will satisfy you beyond the performanc level of your casio PX- 130. I've played several Casio models and have not liked the action on any of the ones I played on compared to several of the above mentioned pianos I  tried. However, the closest in touch and feel to my own grand piano was that Roland RD700NX, that's the top keyboard I was offered a whack at playing and I was not interested in a console style piano or a $5000 Synth. It's general key down weight, spacing and feel were at least similar to my own grand. I doubt there exists an exact digital duplicate but I had no trouble adapting to the keys on that particular digital piano. I felt at home with it.. Pianos are like shoes, you find that one that fits and feels right, that's the one for you !! For me I had to hit that $2500 US level to find it and I played on a lot of digital pianos before I found that one..

Thanks, very detail .

[hbofinger]

I've got a less expensive Kawaii ($1,500) or so three years ago new. It got me started again, and I was very happy with it. Still own it, but have now supplemented with a real grand. So I spend very little time on it now. But Kawaii is definitely a real option if you can't go acustic.