Problem With My Teacher's Ever-Changing Moods.

[lostinidlewonder]

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[nyiregyhazi]

But then you go against the very comment and say, explain what is interfering for me, you think I have to validate how I feel to you? I don't think so. Why do you care about what I feel?

I don't. I was interested in the objective reasoning behind an alternative belief system. Why do you bring validation into this? Discussion is not about validation. It's about an exchange of differing views for consideration. That is impossible if either party decides to keep the reasons for their belief system under lock and key. If you see it as having to "validate" yourself, you're in it for the wrong reasons. Personally, I was trying to get you to divulge the reasoning for alternative view to mine, for my consideration. What has validation got to do with anything? I don't go into discussion for validation. I go into it to increase my awareness of conflicting opinions and to view them all as part of a big picture. Sometimes that strengthens existing beliefs and sometimes that forces me to abandon them and progress onwards to a better place. Validation is for counselling sessions- not discussion of teaching. I'd sooner be invalidated and move on to a better place than go into consideration of something with desire for validation in mind.

Why you do you take being disagreed with so personally? I've learned phenomenal amounts from being disagreed with. I actively enjoy considering a reasoned disagreement. Perhaps it makes me a vulcan, but I never attach sentiment to an opinion.

[lostinidlewonder]

I've already answered my moral obligation to teach young minds manners. Western society doesn't see yawning as a positive reaction when in professional communication. If you go into an interview for a job and yawn throughout the meeting this will not leave a good impression. Burping after a meal also is considered bad manners in Western society and if your child did it a responsible adult would call their attention to it though in other cultures it might be considered totally ok. A student yawning but politely covering it is fine, I specifically stated if it is loud if you re-read a little.

[nyiregyhazi]

I've already answered my moral obligation to teaching young minds manners. Western society doesn't see yawning as a positive reaction when in professional communication. If you go into an interview for a job and yawn throughout the meeting this will not leave a good impression. Burping after a meal also is considered bad manners in Western society and if your child did it a responsible adult would call their attention to it though in other cultures it might be considered totally ok. A student yawning but politely covering it is fine, I specifically stated if it is loud if you re-read a little.

Fine, you already it clear where you stand. BUT- where do you draw the line and why? Is it rude for a child to stop you when you are talking to ask a question? Older society would have said so. I don't- because as long as the question is really significant its better for their learning that they are permitted to ask it. This both illustrates that manners are relative and not absolute and that rigorous adherence to some standards might actively hinder teaching.

That is exactly why I share your crux about whether something interferes with teaching or not. If we didn't put that first and foremost then some standards of manners would spoil teaching- which I believe comes first. However, you never illustrated how yawning interferes with teaching or how calling a student up on it will remove such interference. Why not answer such a organically relevant follow up question with a simple and direct answer? Why bring up validation rather than openly flesh out your beliefs- in the most standard spirit of a two-way exchange of beliefs?

[lostinidlewonder]

BUT- where do you draw the line and why?

Maybe it is not obvious to you that i do not find that this will yield intelligent discussion. Whether you think it does or not I don't really care, maybe you should start a thread and talk about it?

[nyiregyhazi]

Maybe it is not obvious to you that i do not find that this will yield intelligent discussion. Whether you think it does or not I don't really care, maybe you should start a thread and talk about it?

Well, if you cut it off there then it clearly won't. Personally I consider these issues to be integral to the relationship between teacher and student and of phenomenal interest. However, I won't try any further to take this somewhere that might have been interesting.

[lostinidlewonder]

It's obviously not interesting to you if you wont create a thread and discuss it with others that are more wiling than myself.

[nyiregyhazi]

It's obviously not interesting to you if you wont create a thread and discuss it with others that are more wiling than myself.

This isn't your thread or mine. I welcome others to join in on the issues I raised in it.

[lostinidlewonder]

But your "where do you draw the line and why?" is hijacking this thread and you clearly find it so important so why not create a thread?

[nyiregyhazi]

But your "where do you draw the line and why?" is hijacking this thread and you clearly find it so important so why not create a thread?

it shares the same underlying issue- a teacher putting a barrier between themself and the student. If nobody else chips in here, I very likely will indeed start a separate thread- where I hope that people would state fully honest opinions supported by their reasoning (rather than assert that they have opinions, that they are not prepared to elaborate on).

[lostinidlewonder]

I'm looking forward to see it posted.

[keypeg]

I think that this side discussion about teaching manners to young children is taking away from the topic of an older student experiencing difficulties with her teacher.  We have not heard back from JustSheila.  I would like to know more about the theory that is being taught and not understood, so we can get more practical.

[justsheila7]

I haven't been able to read all the replies and retrieve all the helpful advice that was given until now. I apologize for not being here. 

Anyways, I don't really know how to explain to the question regarding what was being taught. I guess I could just say "You know...stuff like determining time signatures and writing down the counting," but that seems rather uninformative and empty. Although, I do have a lot of trouble with these. I do get very confused about how to split up the timing in a certain passage. Especially with time signatures that I am not very familiar with.

Lately however, things have been going rather well. I am understanding the concepts more clearly with time and the lessons are becoming more productive. If all the complications with my teacher do come back, I will most likely look for a different teacher.