Joseph Wölfl piano sonatas and concertos

[promusician]

Request for piano sonatas op.25?,op.28 and op.33 and other pcs.

[thalbergmad]

I do have an original of the Op.49 which I have scanned and attached.

Concertos numbered 1,2,3,4 & 5 are all library copies and the 7th published by the Harmonic Services Group is still in print.

Sonatas are attached.

Thal

[promusician]

Splendid, I only have recordings of sonatas op.25, 28 and 31...

[thalbergmad]

The Op.33 sonata is one of the few pieces I always keep in my rep.

Superb composition.

Thal

[jpcoulon]

Sonatas are attached.

Thanks! Do you also have the 3 Sonatas Op.54?

[thalbergmad]

The Op,54 was scanned privately and marked not for circulation.

It would be best to ask on Pianophilia. It was probably someone there who did it.

Thal

[ahinton]

The Op.33 sonata is one of the few pieces I always keep in my rep.

Why not add Alkan's Op. 33 sonata thereto?

Best,

Alistair

[thalbergmad]

50% because I can't play it and 50% if I had the technique I would be playing something else.

Thal

[promusician]

Thanks! Do you also have the 3 Sonatas Op.54?

Probably at British Library, with their notorious ordering fee.

[jpcoulon]

The Op,54 was scanned privately and marked not for circulation.

By whom? and why? I'm curious!

[thalbergmad]

Regretfully, I do not keep records of who scans things and sends them to me.

Not everyone wants their efforts on IMSLP or sold by the arseholes on pianorarescores, so many scans are shared privately and are kept out of general circulation.

Thal

[jpcoulon]

Is it an autograph? I know some libraries claim copyright on their reproductions.

[thalbergmad]

No, it is not an autograph. Libraries like the British Library claim copyrights on everything, even if it is public domain.

This I think came from Basel.

Thal

[jpcoulon]

Not everyone wants their efforts on IMSLP or sold by the arseholes on pianorarescores, so many scans are shared privately and are kept out of general circulation.

Is scanning really an "effort"? In my view retypesetting is an effort, not to speak of composing!
Could you privately share this scan with me if I promise to retypeset it? See https://imslp.org/wiki/3_Piano_Sonatas,_Op.15_(Woelfl,_Joseph) to prove you I'm not joking. 

[thalbergmad]

Is scanning really an "effort"?

After 12 years, 5 scanners, 60,000 pages, thousands of pounds in library fees and hundreds upon hundreds of hours manipulating digital images and creating pdf's, strangely I consider scanning to be an effort.

If I can get the permission of the person who scanned the Op.54 I will let you have it.

Thal

[visitor]

Is scanning really an "effort"? In my view retypesetting is an effort, not to speak of composing!
Could you privately share this scan with me if I promise to retypeset it? See https://imslp.org/wiki/3_Piano_Sonatas,_Op.15_(Woelfl,_Joseph) to prove you I'm not joking. 

you are coming across as a turd. Scanning hard work . Scanning is expensive ( when you do it right and are scanning the right things worth scanning). Expensive hard work is an effort and many times more than that. 

[promusician]

Is scanning really an "effort"? In my view retypesetting is an effort, not to speak of composing!
Could you privately share this scan with me if I promise to retypeset it? See https://imslp.org/wiki/3_Piano_Sonatas,_Op.15_(Woelfl,_Joseph) to prove you I'm not joking. 

The main problem is the source of the score is in BL, and the scanning fee is notoriously expensive, so it is definitely consider as an effort (for the order person). Moreover, you have to sign an agreement that this score is for private purpose, that means no exposure to anyone you know. Retypesetting it and publish to PD sites such as IMSLP is obviously a serious infringement to the copyright claim by BL.

[jpcoulon]

Moreover, you have to sign an agreement that this score is for private purpose, that means no exposure to anyone you know.

I had a look: https://www.bl.uk/reshelp/atyourdesk/imaging/terms/imageterms.html A user may not reproduce a reproduction, but another person may use it! I can't find "private purpose" in their page. If BL complains after having seen my retypeset on imslp I will say I have borrowed the reproduction. 

[rinzai]

Hello everybody,

has been a while since anything was posted here.

I really would love to learn Wölfl's Op. 54, but sheet music of these sonatas is still nowhere to be found.

Anyone around here who might help me out?

Best regards