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Topic: Which would be the easier Liszt Transcendental Etude (in terms of technique)?  (Read 5151 times)

Offline chopinrabbitthing

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I was wondering which one would be easier: No. 7 "Eroica" or No. 8 "Wilde Jagd". I've previously looked over No. 7 for a few days and found it quite easy, but I was wondering if No. 8 is easier.

I'm 14 and don't worry I've played difficult things before. I have a handspan of about a tenth (pretty small, but my hands are quick enough). My weak spot, sometimes, is playing fast notes in unison, but it can be easily cured by practising slow. Octaves are no huge problem :)

I might put one of these into my repertoire for next year, they seem like the easiest (I don't have much time next year, because of exams). I'm really into dramatic Liszt-y stuff, and both of these do fall into the category.

Thanks guys ^_^
Beethoven - Piano Concerto No.2, Piano Sonata Op 57
Chopin - Ballade Op 23
Liszt- Hungarian Rhapsody No.14
Ravel - Pavane Pour une Infante Défunte
Cramer/Bulow,Chopin Etudes
Chamber music

Offline david456103

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if octaves are not a problem, the #7 would definitely be easier technically for you.

Offline j_menz

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I've previously looked over No. 7 for a few days and found it quite easy, but I was wondering if No. 8 is easier.

Then why don't you just look over No 8 yourself and  make up your own mind? What does it matter what anyone else thinks?
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Offline pianist1976

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IMHO the most dangerous part of Wilde Jagd is the leaps, jumps or whatever the word you use for them. Only with that, in my opinion, makes Eroica easier. But I like way more Wilde, as it's one of my favorite, not only etude or Liszt piece, but one of my favorite romantic pieces. I imagine it as a signature of Liszt.

Offline koopakool

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Wilde Jagd, when played at the correct tempo, is harder than what everybody says IMO. Feux Follet is supposed to be one of the hardest, having played both, I found #8 way harder. The amount of stamina/endurance needed is just insane, just when your wrists start to burn the hardest is still to come. Never played Heroica but it seems much much easier, except maybe the octaves part. If you have strong wrists and have no trouble with octaves, I'd say go with #7. If you're looking for a huge challenge go for #8 or even #4 maybe ? :D

Offline danhuyle

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This is only my opinion about List Transcendental Etudes.

Personally I put #8 as my last option to learn.

TE5 is easy to memorize and requires less stamina than #8. However, that's as easy as it gets with #5, the real demand with #5 comes from the interpretation, not so much the technique.

TE8 on the other hand is the exact opposite of TE5. I'm not up to the interpretation part with TE8, so I can't say anything about it.

Otherwise the answer is - go with the one you like most and learn that. There's no right order to learn the etudes.
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Offline maxy

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I found #7 easier. I had much more fun with #8, it was my first TE.

Offline chopinrabbitthing

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This is only my opinion about List Transcendental Etudes.

Personally I put #8 as my last option to learn.

TE5 is easy to memorize and requires less stamina than #8. However, that's as easy as it gets with #5, the real demand with #5 comes from the interpretation, not so much the technique.

TE8 on the other hand is the exact opposite of TE5. I'm not up to the interpretation part with TE8, so I can't say anything about it.

Otherwise the answer is - go with the one you like most and learn that. There's no right order to learn the etudes.

Thanks, I was planning to learn only one for the year, for competitions and stuff
Beethoven - Piano Concerto No.2, Piano Sonata Op 57
Chopin - Ballade Op 23
Liszt- Hungarian Rhapsody No.14
Ravel - Pavane Pour une Infante Défunte
Cramer/Bulow,Chopin Etudes
Chamber music

Offline chopinrabbitthing

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Wilde Jagd, when played at the correct tempo, is harder than what everybody says IMO. Feux Follet is supposed to be one of the hardest, having played both, I found #8 way harder. The amount of stamina/endurance needed is just insane, just when your wrists start to burn the hardest is still to come. Never played Heroica but it seems much much easier, except maybe the octaves part. If you have strong wrists and have no trouble with octaves, I'd say go with #7. If you're looking for a huge challenge go for #8 or even #4 maybe ? :D

The octaves passage is no problemo, btw, I've been thought to play multiple octaves with the weight of my arms.
So you're saying #8 is as hard as #5? Lol, I'm definitely not going near #5 yet, I'm only 14!
Beethoven - Piano Concerto No.2, Piano Sonata Op 57
Chopin - Ballade Op 23
Liszt- Hungarian Rhapsody No.14
Ravel - Pavane Pour une Infante Défunte
Cramer/Bulow,Chopin Etudes
Chamber music

Offline konsta91

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I've studied #3-8-11 and #11 was my first one.
I think that #7 is much easier because of the strength required..
IMO the easiest are #3 and #2 (even though a challenging technique it is very short)
Good luck with them! Awesome music, one of my favourite!
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