I wonder how many of you have actually sat in with a band, playing a keyboard with those 1, 5, 4, chords on quarter notes exactly in rhythm. Not before or after the beat with no rushing and no dragging. The songs could be from three to six minutes and the sets are 45 minutes.It is not as easy as you think!
well said but i dont think justin bieber is the right example for an exceptionally talented pop artist
not only that, but if you get lost, you have to be able to fake it until you find your way back; if you make "mistakes" you have to ignore them and move on; you have to be able to hear the changes; and as I said you need to be able to play by ear and improvise.
since most classical musicians are unable to improvise and don't understand harmony
I've done it numerous times with no rehearsal and learning the songs by ear live on stage..
not only that, but if you get lost, you have to be able to fake it until you find your way back; if you make "mistakes" you have to ignore them and move on;
Actually I don't think doing that is that difficult.Once you figure out what key it's in, you're set.
Classical musicians are fine for what they do, but since most classical musicians are unable to improvise and don't understand harmony, they are not "complete musicians."
Its a little dependent on the song.. Some music is pretty straight forward, some things like to throw curve balls.
Incidentally, I think jamming is an important skill to have. Omg it's soo fun...
It would be daft to call yourself a musician without it.The other side of my previous point is also that there is a big difference between hitting notes that fit with the harmony and producing a quality improvised arrangement that fits in well with an entire band. I don't actually find it difficult either, but I can recognize that thats because I have developed the right skill set, just as you probably have. I can assure you there will be plenty of your peers (as in your age piano student who sit around intermediate to early advanced classical [not necessarily saying your fit there, just a cross section of pianists at that age who've been learning most of their life]) who find this VERY challenging, in some cases probably flat out impossible without a big learning curve.
Because I don't think I've encountered a pianist who can't jam.
I've never tried and have no real interest in doing so. Not sure that puts me in that category or not.
I need to do Bach,
you need to start jamming with people.Go on now, find a percussionist and a violinist and get to business.
No.
2. Many musicians don't care if what they are doing is new or old. I know none of my interpretations thus far are ground breaking, but I don't care. What is more important to me is the personal satisfaction and emotional fulfillment the music gives me.
the key is in being unaware that its a cheap trick..
Yes.No.
lol. arrogant fool.
That's it, you're definitely the first one tipo be replaced by nobler beings. I'll make sure this one hates Bach and jams a lot.
Nobler beings don't hate Bach.
I need to do Bach, you need to start jamming with people.Go on now, find a percussionist and a violinist and get to business.
This I must hear! Please record a short clip next session. We're all ears.
Just arrogant.
My Bach, or jamming with someone?If it's Bach, I already posted a p&f from WTC back in like November of last year.If it's jamming...School is over. So I can't do anything.
It's jamming. What kind of music do you play with the ensemble you mentioned?
I'm agreeing with your alternate personality...
And don't forget that jazz did not develop out of classical music, it developed from pop music. And jazz is every bit as complex and challenging to play as classical.
Which one?
ajspiano duh!
For me jazz is ten times more tough than classical. I don't know why. But I have a hunch that tells me it has something to do with the rhythm.Also, why pop musicians are famous and classical musicians aren't? Well...That's not exactly true. Ever heard of Andre Rieu? Well, that's not exactly fair, but it's not always singing.Besides, instead of getting annoyed by this fact - which is very valid if you ask me - people should compose more. A new Bach would certainly be awesome.I have a dream: that one day I will compose music for the piano, violin, cello and all kind of different instruments. Halls will be filled with people wanting to listen to my music. And for the heck of it I'll put big body guards at the front so that no pop singers can come in and enjoy the bliss. The president of the states, the queen of England and all royalty would be welcome and of course everyone else.People will speak of my name in delight. Juliard will beg me to teach at their school and the world will forever remember my name as the one who has brought classical music back to its rightfull stature.Alright, too much ego and too much day dreaming. :p But yes, someone do us all a favor and do the above.
Jazz does require you to count and keep the beat. Andre has a silent blinking metronome visible all over the orchestra just to keep it together.Ah yes, Julliard, the black hole of music. Teach there or go there and you will never be heard from again.
Guest teaching I guess then?
That's where you're not accountable for the on going success of the students so you can just talk crap that doesn't actually mean anything, and demand that the students make sense of it and improve.. those who don't just aren't good enough.
In any case, I think that Bachv2.0 (in lack of a better term) would be able to teach consistently aside of writing hall filling orchestras and piano concertos.
I apologize.
That movie scene is brilliant might I say. I might watch the entire movie.
pop music often includes more aspects of art than just music, such as dancing, poetry, stage performance, lightning
That's my point though--even a moderately talented pop singer is bringing more new stuff to the table than most classical musicians.
that's right, and orchestra of 100+ instruments, not a band.
I really, Really hate pop music. It requires little to no talent, while the classical genres require alot of talent and skill to do well... Yet, 90% of pop musicians are insanely rich And famous, while 99% of the classical musicians are the exact opposite...(yes, Lang Lang is the remaining 1%.)I mean, Opera singers could EASILY perform ANY pop song, and it's the same with classical instrumentalists.I think it's so unfair that those with much, MUCH more talent and skill can't get anywhere in the music industry...What do you think?
100+ instruments conducted by a single person who is visually cueing everyone. The majority of those 100+ instruments are also just playing the same thing as everyone else with that same instrument, or, at the very least, their section. Indeed, it can be very difficult to keep with an orchestra, but your number is somewhat irrelevant.
How hard can it be. Learn your part and follow the conductor. Your piano part will contain the last few notes of the instruments that precede you and there are rehearsals...Many of you are faking knowledge of something you have never done. Don't be ashamed to ask a question rather then just try to evoke an answer by misstating the situation!
How hard can it be. Learn your part
and follow the conductor.
Topic: Why are pop 'musicians' so famous and rich, and classical musicians not? 