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Offline genny

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How many hours a day?
on: October 18, 2013, 02:11:12 AM
To all advanced students (university level and up), how many hours a day (in average) do you practice?

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Re: How many hours a day?
Reply #1 on: October 18, 2013, 07:41:59 PM
Between 100 and 180 on a typical day.

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Re: How many hours a day?
Reply #2 on: October 18, 2013, 08:47:39 PM
eh, im high school but its 2-3 hrs

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Reply #3 on: October 18, 2013, 09:42:12 PM
1 hour a day

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Re: How many hours a day?
Reply #4 on: October 19, 2013, 01:24:27 AM
Depends on my mood.  Anywhere from half an hour on a down day to three hours when I'm feeling really good.
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Re: How many hours a day?
Reply #5 on: October 19, 2013, 03:32:14 AM
3 (on a good day) to 8 hours (very very bad day)...haha
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Re: How many hours a day?
Reply #6 on: October 19, 2013, 03:33:06 PM
At least 2 hours when I come home sooooooooo tired from work on weekdays.  but 6-7 hours on weekends, and then I rest for a few hours and play again from around 9:30 pm til midnight.  I just love the instrument so much oh, pit helps me really lower my sugar level since I am a diabetic. :D

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Re: How many hours a day?
Reply #7 on: October 19, 2013, 08:38:45 PM
I try to keep it to one hour on weekdays, and two hours on Fridays and weekends.

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Re: How many hours a day?
Reply #8 on: October 19, 2013, 10:16:31 PM
Not as much as I would like. Maybe avarage 30 minutes a day? Maybe 45 if I'm optimistic.

Maybe if I did more by now on avarege I would have at least been able to play the raindrop prelude/chopin OP9N2.

Bah, who am I kidding. I would be too tired mentally and physically to play more than 90 minutes a day.

I admire those who can play longer than I.

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Re: How many hours a day?
Reply #9 on: October 19, 2013, 10:48:56 PM
It's not so much quantity of practice than quality of practice. Efficiency is key.

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Re: How many hours a day?
Reply #10 on: October 19, 2013, 11:22:29 PM
It varies a lot. Anywhere from 0 to 4 hours, depending on my mood. I don't have a regular practice schedule.
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Re: How many hours a day?
Reply #11 on: November 03, 2013, 10:51:44 PM
I lose myself whenever I sit down at the piano...at least 2 1/2 hours fly by...but typically a minimum of 3 hours per day...up to 5-6.

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Re: How many hours a day?
Reply #12 on: November 03, 2013, 11:39:22 PM
Yohevad Kaplinsky, the director of Juilliard's pre-college piano department, says a concert pianist should practice 4 to 5 hours a day but no more than 6. I think that's a comfortable amount.
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Re: How many hours a day?
Reply #13 on: November 04, 2013, 12:58:27 AM
Yohevad Kaplinsky, the director of Juilliard's pre-college piano department, says a concert pianist should practice 4 to 5 hours a day but no more than 6. I think that's a comfortable amount.

I could agree with that.

30 minute technique

3 to 4 times a day= 1.5 to 2 hours

work on new rep twice a day for 1.5 hours= 3 more hours.

play and work on performance for an hour to 1.5 hours

total around 6 hours
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Re: How many hours a day?
Reply #14 on: November 04, 2013, 01:19:42 AM
I think measuring your practice with time is not as good as measuring your practice in terms of work to be done. Of course if you have limited time in the day and need to work by a timetable set your practice times, but it is much more beneficial to learn to measure out what tasks you want to accomplish and work with that.

I often lure students into a "practice trap" by saying, play this section without mistake 3 times. If you can do it 3 times with no errors you can stand up and stop practicing. If that takes you 1 minute of 1 hour that is how long you need to sit there. I like studying in these terms, you feel like you accomplish more this way. Sometimes after 1 hour of floundering practice you achieve nothing.
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Re: How many hours a day?
Reply #15 on: November 04, 2013, 01:50:49 AM
I think measuring your practice with time is not as good as measuring your practice in terms of work to be done. Of course if you have limited time in the day and need to work by a timetable set your practice times, but it is much more beneficial to learn to measure out what tasks you want to accomplish and work with that.

I often lure students into a "practice trap" by saying, play this section without mistake 3 times. If you can do it 3 times with no errors you can stand up and stop practicing. If that takes you 1 minute of 1 hour that is how long you need to sit there. I like studying in these terms, you feel like you accomplish more this way. Sometimes after 1 hour of floundering practice you achieve nothing.

To add to that (because I freaking love practice and so I love to talk about practice), I remind myself of things that ALWAYS have to be done, like practice with a metronome; practice this slow or this faster; finish reading this section or PRACTICE READING....;technique practice....all those things take time and can take a good amount of practice. which is awesome. means you don't have to play those stupid pieces you just worked on yesterday.  :P
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Re: How many hours a day?
Reply #16 on: November 05, 2013, 03:51:29 AM
I'm working but still a min. of 2 hrs per day 6 times a week...aside from days when there are exceptions and i'll make it up on another day; due to prep for auditions.

When time allows I easily will practice min. 3 hrs and a maximum of about 4+ hours.
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Re: How many hours a day?
Reply #17 on: November 05, 2013, 05:50:27 AM
Virtually no practice at all aside from ten minutes technique night and morning on the Virgil Practice Clavier, a discipline I have maintained for decades. Once at the piano I improvise, and I am still unclear if "practice" improvisation actually exists. I do have a small repertoire of pieces, but the practice required to keep it functional is insignificant. The time spent improvising varies so much a daily average is not meaningful.
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Re: How many hours a day?
Reply #18 on: November 19, 2013, 06:47:12 PM
4 hour.........


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Re: How many hours a day?
Reply #19 on: November 19, 2013, 07:03:27 PM
From the time that I started taking piano seriously I think the least I've practiced was about an hour
The most I've practiced was about 16 hours. I'm not making that up. I have some pretty bad OCD and if I get something in my head I won't stop till it sounds perfect and that happened multiple times in a row. I skipped dinner and told my parents I'd go to bed soon. I ended up "going to bed" at 7am and woke up at 8 am for a meeting with my boss. Don't tell him this, but I remember absolutely nothing of what the meeting was about or where it was or anything , I'm thankful I didn't crash my car getting to wherever it was
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Offline bronnestam

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Re: How many hours a day?
Reply #20 on: November 19, 2013, 10:40:50 PM
My teacher ordered me, one week ago, to play just four times 15 minutes a day for now. I have followed that schedule strictly for a week, with the help of a timer.
The point was to make my practicing even more effective than before. I have a lot to do and if I know I just have 15 minutes, I must choose carefully and not waste one minute on silly things.

It has been an interesting experiment so far, and I look forward to extend the time a bit later on. I think I have made good progress this week and I work with better focus and discipline.

Before that I played between 0 and 2.5 hours a day, where a typical session was about 45 minutes before I got tired and had to rest.

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Re: How many hours a day?
Reply #21 on: November 20, 2013, 12:27:35 AM
I really don't have enough time playing piano... at max 3-4 hours on the weekends.

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Re: How many hours a day?
Reply #22 on: November 23, 2013, 01:01:36 AM
Virtually no practice at all aside from ten minutes technique night and morning on the Virgil Practice Clavier, a discipline I have maintained for decades. Once at the piano I improvise, and I am still unclear if "practice" improvisation actually exists. I do have a small repertoire of pieces, but the practice required to keep it functional is insignificant. The time spent improvising varies so much a daily average is not meaningful.

I completely agree. Sometimes, taking on extremely hard work can mean a decrease in amount of hours you practice, for a while. The first few sessions will seem long, with a lot of work that seems to lead to small result. This is a product of unorganized practice. Also, even worse...having to work difficult things up to tempo. The approach to accomplishing this in short time can seem very deceiving. Practicing something that needs to be played fast, as slow as possible, not speeding it up that whole practice. When situations like this develop, as the semester nears end...haha...I average 2 hours of really hard work on rep, and about 30 minutes technique, give more on a good day. :) Feeling great!!! In addition to that, I just use my little weighted hammer action silent practice tool.  :)
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Re: How many hours a day?
Reply #23 on: November 26, 2013, 07:22:07 AM
atleast an hour + a day

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Re: How many hours a day?
Reply #24 on: November 28, 2013, 05:34:55 AM
My professor expects 4 hours on week days and 6 on weekends.

But the key is not doing them all in one sitting!

I remember back in the day, I would be like 'oh yeah 6 hours in one sitting GO!!'

Nah...  That won't fly.

What you gotta do is divide how much you intend to practice for the day into a few smaller sessions

And in between each session, take a nap. 

Everything works like MAGIC.

So on weekdays, I do two to four naps a day, and on weekends I do three to six naps a day.


You'll die the first few weeks but after that your body will get used to it.

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Re: How many hours a day?
Reply #25 on: November 28, 2013, 05:38:51 AM
So on weekdays, I do two to four naps a day, and on weekends I do three to six naps a day.


You'll die the first few weeks but after that your body will get used to it.

Or you'll turn into....

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Re: How many hours a day?
Reply #26 on: November 28, 2013, 05:40:25 AM
My professor expects 4 hours on week days and 6 on weekends.

But the key is not doing them all in one sitting!

I remember back in the day, I would be like 'oh yeah 6 hours in one sitting GO!!'

Nah...  That won't fly.

What you gotta do is divide how much you intend to practice for the day into a few smaller sessions

And in between each session, take a nap. 

Everything works like MAGIC.

So on weekdays, I do two to four naps a day, and on weekends I do three to six naps a day.


You'll die the first few weeks but after that your body will get used to it.



Make sure to eat really good, too! eat many many times a day. Like...20. Your body will hate you at first, but you'll get used to it! :P

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Re: How many hours a day?
Reply #27 on: November 28, 2013, 08:25:14 AM
Since I'm still in highschool, 2 hours on weekdays, and anything from 4 to 8 hours on weekends.
But I believe it has more to do with the quality of your study than how many hours you spend on it.
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Re: How many hours a day?
Reply #28 on: December 04, 2013, 10:21:09 PM
I'd say an average of 2-3 hours a day. Probably not always in one go, I may split it up if I don't have the time e.g. 1 hour in the early morning and then 1 or 2 more in the afternoon/evening

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Re: How many hours a day?
Reply #29 on: December 05, 2013, 12:17:35 AM
To all advanced students (university level and up), how many hours a day (in average) do you practice? 

I have been teaching (not music) for 30 years now and I have always believed that to a certain extent it is more the quality than the quantity that matters in studying.  However, for a group of college students whose intelligence and abilities are more or less homogenous having been prescreened well, then the  more hours of practice may translate to an advantage.

I believe that my son who is now a freshman taking his BM in Applied Piano (piano performance) in a school with a very stringent screening process, has ended up with a group of classmates who have very similar abilities with the piano .... and therefore under that situation, the more hours of practice may translate to an advantage.

Putting in the other requirements for theory classes, reading, assignments etc ... he practices an average of 3-4 hours a day, usually in the evenings from 7 to 11.  He is planning to increase this to 5-6 hours a day as he gets more adjusted to the school environment. He says that is how much many of the upper years students put.   
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Re: How many hours a day?
Reply #30 on: June 23, 2024, 01:23:04 AM
1 hr/day during the school year, 1-3 hours/day during the summer. Typically, 50% of this time is wasted on old repertoire and improvisation.
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Re: How many hours a day?
Reply #31 on: June 26, 2024, 12:47:56 AM
usually 2 on school days and 4-5 on other days
I always start with 30ish minutes of technical stuff-mainly scales, arpeggios, octave (love the broken ones!)
and almost never have enough time to practice all the pieces I want...😁

someone says they improvise: any tips on how? Improvising seems very difficult (not that anything else is easy.) I can improvise a few notes but to go on is just :P Is simply playing random notes continuously improvisation? (think about contemporary music?)

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Re: How many hours a day?
Reply #32 on: June 27, 2024, 06:38:41 PM
When I was studying piano performance, I would practise for four hours a day on average. Now that I'm older, I'm actually putting in more time. Funny that lol. 😆

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Re: How many hours a day?
Reply #33 on: June 27, 2024, 11:12:55 PM
I have a bad habit of going days (sometimes even a week) without practicing 💀
But when it do it’s 1 hour to 3 hours
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Re: How many hours a day?
Reply #34 on: July 08, 2024, 06:21:31 AM
I have a bad habit of going days (sometimes even a week) without practicing 💀
But when it do it’s 1 hour to 3 hours

I pulled a muscle recently below my shoulder blade, after lifting a heavy object and this made sitting at the piano excruciating after about 1/2 an hour. I decided to not play for a week until I recovered and after that I found that I had already lost some technique in the pieces I had been learning up until then. So playing every day or almost every day is crucial. I'm curious however, because I am attempting to learn many pieces at the same time, I am making progress slowly but obviously I cannot practise each one of them every day. It's around 10 pieces and all are at a reasonable level but not perfected. Back when I was studying for exams, I never did this, because I had a teacher, but now, is it better to perfect say, five pieces, and then begin learning new ones, or practise certain pieces every other day or every third day - I'm still making progress on all of them, albeit slowly.

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Re: How many hours a day?
Reply #35 on: July 08, 2024, 10:58:58 AM
I pulled a muscle recently below my shoulder blade, after lifting a heavy object and this made sitting at the piano excruciating after about 1/2 an hour. I decided to not play for a week until I recovered and after that I found that I had already lost some technique in the pieces I had been learning up until then. So playing every day or almost every day is crucial. I'm curious however, because I am attempting to learn many pieces at the same time, I am making progress slowly but obviously I cannot practise each one of them every day. It's around 10 pieces and all are at a reasonable level but not perfected. Back when I was studying for exams, I never did this, because I had a teacher, but now, is it better to perfect say, five pieces, and then begin learning new ones, or practise certain pieces every other day or every third day - I'm still making progress on all of them, albeit slowly.

Personally, I find it psychologically difficult to work on so many pieces at once, particularly if they are all in an intermediate stage of "doneness." So I like to stagger starting new pieces so that I have just one or two for which I'm learning the notes, a few for which I'm getting them fluid and up to tempo, and a few for which I'm refining.  I find the note learning phase the most mentally tiring, so I put that first in my practice session, then the refining stage, and finally the working up to tempo. I don't stick to this rigidly; if there's a piece I'm planning to learn and it has some obvious tricky spots, I start playing around with those weeks or months before I start working on the notes for the piece as a whole. I don't think there are any rules about all this - I just find it less satisfying to make a little bit of progress on a lot of pieces in parallel than to make more noticeable progress on a few. And there's more variety in doing some note learning, some technical work, and some refining every day then in being at the same stage on a lot of pieces at once.

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Re: How many hours a day?
Reply #36 on: July 08, 2024, 01:40:19 PM
The thing is, on a new piece, even past the sight-reading stage, I devote extra time to it and put the others I play better, aside. Once the new piece is at an ok-level, but not good enough to play in front of people, I start learning something new. It's not boredom so much but a sense of catching-up (I stopped playing for many years). I guess I have to stop doing this.

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Re: How many hours a day?
Reply #37 on: July 26, 2024, 01:38:32 PM
1 hr/day during the school year, 1-3 hours/day during the summer. Typically, 50% of this time is wasted on old repertoire and improvisation.

nothing wasteful about improvising and maintaining old repertoire (unless you're in a degree program, perhaps)

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Re: How many hours a day?
Reply #38 on: July 26, 2024, 01:46:24 PM
I practice 2-3 hours per day, this doesn't  include reading music away from the piano, which I do to help learn new pieces and to analyze pieced for memorization.
I practice 4-5 days in a row then take a day off.
Each day is different in focus - I may focus on etudes or on new pieces or old pieces, some days I focus on metronome work on a few different pieces.  I want to make a point of improvising/composing more.

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Reply #39 on: July 31, 2024, 09:54:14 PM
Liszt did 10 hours every day, I usually do between 3 and 4 hours practice a day, and more if learning a new piece in intervals, bringing pieces back to performance level is quicker but still it all amounts to a working day, with listening to recordings, and preparing. I don't anything can be achieved in an hour a day, as you spend 20 mins on a warm up

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Re: How many hours a day?
Reply #40 on: August 01, 2024, 08:32:30 PM
lol I only practice when I have a concert.  When I’m on tour I don’t practice at all
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Re: How many hours a day?
Reply #41 on: August 05, 2024, 08:11:32 PM
lol I only practice when I have a concert.  When I’m on tour I don’t practice at all

Interesting. I would typically find that pieces start deteriorating if I did that. Each mistake made during concerts start accumulating and muddying the overall cleaness of my playing eventually. Does that not happen to you?

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Re: How many hours a day?
Reply #42 on: August 07, 2024, 04:58:47 AM
Interesting. I would typically find that pieces start deteriorating if I did that. Each mistake made during concerts start accumulating and muddying the overall cleaness of my playing eventually. Does that not happen to you?

After a while you get tired of playing the same sh*t over and over again.  And you realize all the artistic directors/curators/critics have ears that are slightly more developed than your average listener so it kinda doesn’t really matter how you play.  As long as the people cutting your check is happy that’s good enough.  In the real world you don’t have the time or energy to put in 4+ hours of practice unless you’re not actively performing/have a day job

There’s no way to practice when you’re on the road.  And even if you did have a piano available you wouldn’t wanna practice anyways you’ll be too tired from travel or wanna party and have fun. 
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Re: How many hours a day?
Reply #43 on: November 12, 2024, 09:33:57 PM
I aimed for 3 hours a day for a while (on top of work) and then kind of burnt out. Now I’m doing 1.5-2 h on weekdays, take a day off on Saturdays and then play around 3-5 on Sundays

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Re: How many hours a day?
Reply #44 on: November 16, 2024, 12:27:26 PM
Many of the great pianists give practice hour numbers of around 3-4 hours a day.
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