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Offline cwjalex

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Re: Mozart sonatas - practicing evenness & trills
Reply #100 on: January 25, 2015, 03:52:12 PM

In that case cwjalexk, maybe you should get a teacher of the calibre of Badura-Skoda.

hehe, to be honest my teacher isn't that great.  i think she's an average teacher and the main reason i have one is that it keeps me playing new pieces and gives me someone to impress which makes me play a lot.  she's at least better than my first teacher, who was horrible and was worse than me at the very first lesson.

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Re: Mozart sonatas - practicing evenness & trills
Reply #101 on: January 25, 2015, 04:34:51 PM
hehe, to be honest my teacher isn't that great.
My teacher was internationally renowned - look for one of those.  Incidentally, she was quite happy to pass students to me who she couldn't reach.
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Re: Mozart sonatas - practicing evenness & trills
Reply #102 on: January 25, 2015, 05:01:53 PM
how much does your teacher charge?  mine i think is 190 dollars a month for 4, 45 minute lessons.

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Re: Mozart sonatas - practicing evenness & trills
Reply #103 on: January 25, 2015, 06:00:28 PM
£45 an hour but she died getting on for 10 years now.
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Re: Mozart sonatas - practicing evenness & trills
Reply #104 on: January 26, 2015, 02:40:57 PM
cwjalex I use (depending on the order of the trill)

2-3-2-3-2-4-3-2-1-5
or
3-2-3-2-4-3-2-1-5

a bit similair to what you said

dem chopin turns taught me that (well the fingering in the books did lol)

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Re: Mozart sonatas - practicing evenness & trills
Reply #105 on: January 26, 2015, 11:22:11 PM
If trills are your problem, start the second part of the Hanon excercises book.
Dont follow it TOO closely, but play them. You'll notice wich parts are getting hard for you, and thats a great indication on what you should work on.

When working on Hanon, always keep the basics of muscle memory in mind:
-the last way of performing something, should be the right way.
-slow and right is better than 'fast and sloppy'
-dont be afraid (or lazy) to slow down. Good technique is the basis.
1+1=11

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Re: Mozart sonatas - practicing evenness & trills
Reply #106 on: January 30, 2015, 12:00:11 PM
Just came across a quote for Mr Menz from "The American Cyclopaedia", by George Ripley And Charles A. Dana:

'Stops were early introduced into the piano, but, save in parts of continental Europe, they have been abandoned; several pedals are there also used, but in England and this country only two, one for forte effects, the other for piano.

The forte pedal is quite effectual, and besides not injurious to the instrument.'

And here's a whole webpage in french titled 'LA PÉDALE FORTE' https://www.pianofacile.com/pedale/
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Offline j_menz

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Re: Mozart sonatas - practicing evenness & trills
Reply #107 on: January 30, 2015, 10:29:28 PM
Just came across a quote for Mr Menz from "The American Cyclopaedia", by George Ripley And Charles A. Dana:

A "popular dictionary of general knowledge" from 1883? Really. And their own choice of words, too.  ::)

And here's a whole webpage in french titled 'LA PÉDALE FORTE' https://www.pianofacile.com/pedale/

A modern "piano made easy" course? Just 'cause it's in French doesn't give it extra kudos.
"What the world needs is more geniuses with humility. There are so few of us left" -- Oscar Levant

Offline hardy_practice

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Re: Mozart sonatas - practicing evenness & trills
Reply #108 on: January 30, 2015, 10:43:08 PM
Maybe you wanna try googling PÉDALE FORTE. :o
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