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Offline sparklebell

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Rachmaninoff prelude op 23 no 4
on: February 03, 2015, 04:04:21 AM
i have doubt in bar 32 : please explain the duration of notes in the bar, like how are the triplets spaced and how are the notes summed up in 3/4 timing.

And also is there a difference between phrase and legato line?

Offline faulty_damper

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Re: Rachmaninoff prelude op 23 no 4
Reply #1 on: February 03, 2015, 07:41:20 AM
Are you asking if it's 3 against 2?

Phrase tells you what the musical idea/statement is.  Legato tells you how to perform.

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Re: Rachmaninoff prelude op 23 no 4
Reply #2 on: February 03, 2015, 10:01:28 AM
I think I can see where the confusion comes from.
If you look at the chords, you will notice that in every case there is a rest above or below it equivalent to a quaver (eighth-note).
If you ignore these chords, and take account of the rests, then you get 9 quavers in the right hand to 6 in the left.
The 6 left hand quavers add up to the expected 6 quavers for the 3/4 time signature.
The 9 right hand quavers are all triplets.

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Re: Rachmaninoff prelude op 23 no 4
Reply #3 on: February 03, 2015, 02:18:19 PM
@faulty_damper :thank you for your help... how can we tell the difference between legato line and phrases.

@stoat_king : thank you for your help...my confusion is cleared.

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Re: Rachmaninoff prelude op 23 no 4
Reply #4 on: February 04, 2015, 03:05:53 AM
You have to look at the musical ideas to hear it.  Sometimes, it's visually obvious (in the case of Chopin's music) what the phrase is.  Other times, it's not when the phrase is built on motives.  You'll have to listen to hear when it starts and ends.

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Re: Rachmaninoff prelude op 23 no 4
Reply #5 on: February 04, 2015, 07:03:07 AM
@faulty_damper : Thank you..that was very helpful.
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