New repertoire suggestions

[cameronbiles]

Hi guys! As the title suggests I'm in search of some new pieces to learn, I'm tempted to learn a 20th century work of some kind as I enjoy that style.
To give you an idea of what standard I am the pieces I've completed are Rachmaninov prelude in G minor op.23 and B minor op.32 (one bar resists polish!), Brahms intermezzo in A and moonlight sonata (yet another person playing it I know!)too name a few.I'm currently working on / polishing ( plan on finishing in a couple of weeks) Fazil says Paganini 'jazz' variations.

Any suggests will be greatly appreciated!

[visitor]

wow. love this. give it a shot. i would love to find time to mess w/ this someday as i love a late romantic/20th century and jazzish style

[expressman70]

Prokofiev scherzo from op 12 i think. Or ballade 3. Ravel

[cameronbiles]

I'll check those out, what piece would you recommend by ravel?

[j_menz]

I'll check those out, what piece would you recommend by ravel?

His Bolero if you have ice skates. If you have a piano, avoidance.

[cameronbiles]

To be fair that made me laugh! Ill take heed of that warning (despite my love of his works) any  other suggestions?

[michael_c]

Have a look at Ravel's Sonatina, or the Pavane pour une infante défunte.

Have you played any Debussy? If not, you should remedy this as once. There's loads of possibilities: the Estampes, L'île joyeuse, the Préludes...

[cameronbiles]

I have! Prelude from suite bergamasque and the sarabande from suite pour le piano!

[cameronbiles]

Have a look at Ravel's Sonatina, or the Pavane pour une infante défunte.

Have you played any Debussy? If not, you should remedy this as once. There's loads of possibilities: the Estampes, L'île joyeuse, the Préludes...

I have, I've played prelude from suite bergamasque and the sarabande from suite pour le piano! I love his set of images although they maybe abit beyond my boundaries at the moment!
Sorry for double post btw

[michael_sayers]

Hi guys! As the title suggests I'm in search of some new pieces to learn, I'm tempted to learn a 20th century work of some kind as I enjoy that style.
To give you an idea of what standard I am the pieces I've completed are Rachmaninov prelude in G minor op.23 and B minor op.32 (one bar resists polish!), Brahms intermezzo in A and moonlight sonata (yet another person playing it I know!)too name a few.I'm currently working on / polishing ( plan on finishing in a couple of weeks) Fazil says Paganini 'jazz' variations.

Any suggests will be greatly appreciated!

How about the tempo di valse composition Waldemarsudde på Natten?  It is 21st century, not 20th century, so maybe you would not be interested.

[visitor]

Or these perhaps as maybe a small set of shorts? Ie  Simplicity many times produces great beauty

[cameronbiles]

Would melonchonie by poulenc be a alright choice next? I've listened to it before hand and really love it!

[chopinlover01]

Go ahead and pick any of the following.. As for era, I prefer the....
Romantic:
Rachmaninov: Prelude in B flat major
                      Elegie in E flat minor
                      Etude Tableaux in F minor, op33/1
Chopin: Any of the preludes (except maybe the B flat minor or D minor)
Etudes; 10/3, 10/5, 10/6, 10/9, 10/11, 10/12, 25/1, 25/2, 25/5, 25/7,
Ballade 3 in A flat major
Any of the Impromptus (just don't do Op 66, it's... agh!!)

[cameronbiles]

Go ahead and pick any of the following.. As for era, I prefer the....
Romantic:
Rachmaninov: Prelude in B flat major
                      Elegie in E flat minor
                      Etude Tableaux in F minor, op33/1
Chopin: Any of the preludes (except maybe the B flat minor or D minor)
Etudes; 10/3, 10/5, 10/6, 10/9, 10/11, 10/12, 25/1, 25/2, 25/5, 25/7,
Ballade 3 in A flat major
Any of the Impromptus (just don't do Op 66, it's... agh!!)

thanks for the extensive list! the B-flat major prelude looks intense! ( thankfully I'm left handed!) could you suggest any 20th century works?

[chopinlover01]

Hmm.. Debussy is always good. Bartok dances in bulgarian rhythm are fun...
My favorite Debussy:
1st Arabesque
Children's Corner (esp. The Snow is Dancing)
Etudes

[cameronbiles]

Hmm.. Debussy is always good. Bartok dances in bulgarian rhythm are fun...
My favorite Debussy:
1st Arabesque
Children's Corner (esp. The Snow is Dancing)
Etudes

ok I might go for the chopin etudes you've mentioned or the ballade plus a Debussy prelude if that sounds reasonable?

[billyfisher100]

How about one of the Liszt Ballades? The martellato from the 2nd ballade always impresses!

[8_octaves]

To give you an idea of what standard I am the pieces I've completed are Rachmaninov prelude in G minor op.23 and B minor op.32

Etude Tableaux in F minor, op33/1

Hi cameron,

in spite of Rachmaninoff, as we know, being assigned by people to the "late Romantic", he - at least to some extent - lived in the 20th century, but was born in the 19th. So, the Rachmaninoff-area seems to offer interesting works: You mentioned the preludes - chopinlover01 mentioned an etude-tableau: One of the latter I heard of and listened to some time ago, and many years ago I borrowed  the etudes-tableaux from a library, but gave them back without trying them out too much, and of "special names" or background for the works I didn't know anything then.

But perhaps you already know it? "Op.39,6" :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06qCCmw0d4s

https://conquest.imslp.info/files/imglnks/usimg/8/87/IMSLP309444-PMLP01894-Op.39_Etudes-tableaux_6._Allegro.pdf

What I like very much in op.39,6 is, that the yapping / bark of the big, evil, villous, furry wolf is, imho, very nice to listen to,   , like he just awoke, then barks / yaps, and agitates himself, then suddenly spots the little red-capped girl, then chases her, while snarling angrily,   and yapping again often! And the quick, anxious, running moves of the girl are funny to listen to, too, I think!  

Cordially, 8_octaves!  

[chopinlover01]

ok I might go for the chopin etudes you've mentioned or the ballade plus a Debussy prelude if that sounds reasonable?

Sure. If they end up being too difficult, no harm done!

[cameronbiles]

Hi cameron,

in spite of Rachmaninoff, as we know, being assigned by people to the "late Romantic", he - at least to some extent - lived in the 20th century, but was born in the 19th. So, the Rachmaninoff-area seems to offer interesting works: You mentioned the preludes - chopinlover01 mentioned an etude-tableau: One of the latter I heard of and listened to some time ago, and many years ago I borrowed  the etudes-tableaux from a library, but gave them back without trying them out too much, and of "special names" or background for the works I didn't know anything then.

But perhaps you already know it? "Op.39,6" :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06qCCmw0d4s

https://conquest.imslp.info/files/imglnks/usimg/8/87/IMSLP309444-PMLP01894-Op.39_Etudes-tableaux_6._Allegro.pdf

 Hi!
Thanks for the reply the Rachmaninov etude I have heard it and it's my favourite out the set however it sounds Sooo hard though! Any Prokofiev you could recommend just because he's been a figure if interest for me since I considered music seriously. (That been said the Rach is tempting so I might consider that after the fazil say which is coming to a conclusion now )

[cameronbiles]

How about one of the Liszt Ballades? The martellato from the 2nd ballade always impresses!

I'm flattered that you even suggested that! The second ballade is very nice! ( i have a soft spot of liszt piano music )

[8_octaves]

Any Prokofiev you could recommend just because he's been a figure if interest for me since I considered music seriously.

Hi cameron,

not really.. . hmm, but since wolves were mentioned above, and connecting them to Mr. Prokofiev, I remember I only bought somewhen a simple, but funny piano-version of "Peter und der Wolf", arr. by John W. Schaum. That would be far too easy for your purpose, but at least it contains a test / little exam-form, in which young piano pupils are supposed to select the correct theme and assign it to the correct protagonist.

But there's a piano reduction by Prokofiev, too, out there, of 1998 ( Schirmer), and there should be other piano solo versions, too (?) , all of them probably being harder than my Schaum-book (?) - but I don't know how difficult exactly the piano reduction or other piano solo versions are. Can only estimate that they'll be harder than the Schaum arr.

Nevertheless, a demanding piano reduction / piano solo version of it may be worth a look, I think!  

But I haven't thoroughly checked the catalogues either, because there's an overwhelming amount of Peter+Wolf-stuff out there.. . And generally most Prokofiev-works seem to be copyright restricted.
Other works by Prokofiev I unfortunately don't have, and I think you are more interested in his sonatas and piano concertos, so perhaps others may be of help here?

Many greetings, 8_oct!  

[cameronbiles]

Hi cameron,

not really.. . hmm, but since wolves were mentioned above, and connecting them to Mr. Prokofiev, I remember I only bought somewhen a simple, but funny piano-version of "Peter und der Wolf", arr. by John W. Schaum. That would be far too easy for your purpose, but at least it contains a test / little exam-form, in which young piano pupils are supposed to select the correct theme and assign it to the correct protagonist.

But there's a piano reduction by Prokofiev, too, out there, of 1998 ( Schirmer), and there should be other piano solo versions, too (?) , all of them probably being harder than my Schaum-book (?) - but I don't know how difficult exactly the piano reduction or other piano solo versions are. Can only estimate that they'll be harder than the Schaum arr.

Nevertheless, a demanding piano reduction / piano solo version of it may be worth a look, I think!  

But I haven't thoroughly checked the catalogues either, because there's an overwhelming amount of Peter+Wolf-stuff out there.. . And generally most Prokofiev-works seem to be copyright restricted.
Other works by Prokofiev I unfortunately don't have, and I think you are more interested in his sonatas and piano concertos, so perhaps others may be of help here?

Many greetings, 8_oct!  

His piano concertos ha, I can dream I suppose xD. Does anyone think his piano sonatas in A minor or C minor out of my reach at the moment?

[pianoville]

How about one of the Liszt Ballades? The martellato from the 2nd ballade always impresses!

Which Martellato?

[cameronbiles]

Out of interest is prokofievs 3rd piano sonata or his C minor one out of my league at the moment?