Liszt's edition of Schubert's sonata fantasie

[mjames]

Alright I haven't checked any other editions but I'm pretty sure this one is filled with "mistakes." Mistakes as in, not notating specific sharps or flats.

Like in bar 14, when Schubert switches b major I think Liszt (or schuber himself) forgot to notate the c sharp. Why? Because if I play b major right after playing the c natural is sounds like crap, but then it sounds beautifullllll once you put in the c sharp

Stuff like this happens a few times in the first movement. Another example is during the development (too lazy to count bars), when the left hand octaves are recalling the main theme liszt doesn't put a b flat, he just leaves it as a b natural. Again, we're in g minor. In the beginning he specified that we changed to g minor, but for the rest of the section the guy doesn't notate for parts that are obviously supposed to be b flat octaves.

Okay is this a "mistake" or did Liszt assume that a competent pianist would be able to figure things out because ey, it's simple? But anyways, tomorrow I'll check out some other editions and see if the accidentals are the same as Liszt's.

So uh yeah, warning. Don't use Liszt's edition. Might be Bonkers.

P.S. I LOVE THIS SONATA<333333

[mjames]

Yup, I checked out the first edition and it had the same errors, but then I checked out the Julies Epstein and the Paul Mies edition and all the "errors" are now gone. So it seems like I was correct about there being some problems with the sharps and flats in Liszt's edition.

[j_menz]

The manuscript appears not to have survived, so you'll never be quite sure if the "errors" are actually what Schubert intended.

[michael_sayers]

Liszt's edition of the complete Beethoven sonatas is almost exactly like an urtext.  It is the most minimalistic and austere edition of Beethoven's sonatas I've ever seen.  There are a few chord inversions that are different than in today's urtext versions, but maybe more sources are available now than were available to Liszt?

I doubt he would do otherwise with the music of Schubert, except for things such as the song transcriptions.

[mjames]

The manuscript appears not to have survived, so you'll never be quite sure if the "errors" are actually what Schubert intended.

true, but the music sounds better if I sometimes ignore Liszt lol. Guess ill just go with my gut feeling.