Which Bach piece to learn

[andrewchopin11]

Hi everyone! I am looking up for a new Bach piece. My last work was English Suite no.3 and some Sinfonias and I find these marvellous. I am listening toccata in c minor: it's wonderful, but I'd like a more "allegro" and "vivace" piece, like the prelude and the gigue of english suite 3. I love "contrappunctus"!! Can you help me? 
(concerto italiano?)
P.S. I am sorry for my bad english!

[asiantraveller101]

The D major and G major toccatas are upbeat and lively. Have you tried them?

[themeandvariation]

The gigue in the English suite is a lot of fun to play… and a great piece!  I see you are considering it.. Are you concerned about it being too challenging?…  Playing the Sinfonias is a good warm up to the difficulties in the gigue.. though it does only have 2 voices… (fingering is very important .. as with all of Bach's pieces)

[andrewchopin11]

The gigue in the English suite is a lot of fun to play… and a great piece!  I see you are considering it.. Are you concerned about it being too challenging?…  Playing the Sinfonias is a good warm up to the difficulties in the gigue.. though it does only have 2 voices… (fingering is very important .. as with all of Bach's pieces)

No, now I play the giugue quite good And 9th sinfonia has three voices (I play that)

[themeandvariation]

Playing the Sinfonias is a good warm up to the difficulties in the gigue.. though it does only have 2 voices…

My point being that the 3 voice sinfonias are As involved as the 2 voice gigues in the English suites… #9th sinfonia one could characterize as much slower…(Being reminiscent of the F minor fugue WTC 1 )
But I didn't realize that you had played the whole suite.. (which the gigue in that case Does have 3 voices in a few places….For some reason - i was thinking the English suite in A minor - which does have a 2 voice gigue…  and that is the one i was referring to as a wonderful choice.  Sorry for my confusion).
Have you considered the C# minor fugue WTC 2 or the A minor fugue WTC 2 ? - they can really move.
I can't tell if you are implying that you already play the Italian concerto…If not, i think that is a good choice as well.

[andrewchopin11]

My point being that the 3 voice sinfonias are As involved as the 2 voice gigues in the English suites… #9th sinfonia one could characterize as much slower…(Being reminiscent of the F minor fugue WTC 1 )
But I didn't realize that you had played the whole suite.. (which the gigue in that case Does have 3 voices in a few places….For some reason - i was thinking the English suite in A minor - which does have a 2 voice gigue…  and that is the one i was referring to as a wonderful choice.  Sorry for my confusion).

Ahahaha that's ok!  oh yes, I have considered to learn some prelude and fugue from WTC, but I found these too (can I say? ) "didactic". Anyway I am going to listen your piece 

[themeandvariation]

I like Schiff's version of the A minor gigue…  I had the chance hear him perform it live - which definitely had more fire (in terms of speed and volume - which i think works Even better) than his recorded version…

[andrewchopin11]

I like Schiff's version of the A minor gigue…  I had the chance hear him perform it live - which definitely had more fire (in terms of speed and volume - which i think works Even better) than his recorded version…

Really? I hate Schiff       I find his music so "forced". Have you ever listen Richter or Pollini playing Bach? I think they are fantastic

[mrnhrtkmp210999]

Looking at your level and looking at the pieces you recently played are more of the suite-work of Bach. Though, he was also very much known as a fugue-writer. I'd suggest you take a look at the B-flat minor from WTC Book II. It is a marvelous 'modern' fugue (for Bach's time) which indulges in a lot of inversion and canonic work.

Before you start, you should probably first do a lot of analysis, but this is good for your improvement in counterpoint playing after having played the sinfonias.

Good luck and BW,
Marijn

[andrewchopin11]

Looking at your level and looking at the pieces you recently played are more of the suite-work of Bach. Though, he was also very much known as a fugue-writer. I'd suggest you take a look at the B-flat minor from WTC Book II. It is a marvelous 'modern' fugue (for Bach's time) which indulges in a lot of inversion and canonic work.

Before you start, you should probably first do a lot of analysis, but this is good for your improvement in counterpoint playing after having played the sinfonias.

Good luck and BW,
Marijn

Hi Marijn, thanks for your tips! I have listened the fugue but now I am more attracted by Bach's toccatas! Maybe I will study g major or c minor toccata when I finish my piano exam 
moreover I will study Beethoven sonata n.15 and some "easy" Chopin etude