Pianists and Fashion

[rubinsteinmad]

1st

Oh, OK. I was listening to the 3rd and I was like "<3333333". Ill listen to the 1st then.

[swagmaster420x]

I ship thalberg and Rubensteinmad now, the level of flirting between them demonstrated in the last posts across various threads is enough to get anyone hot and bothered

[ahinton]

I ship thalberg and Rubensteinmad now, the level of flirting between them demonstrated in the last posts across various threads is enough to get anyone hot and bothered

For the record, "anyone" doesn't include me...

Best,

Alistair

[minor9th]

On the other end of the fashion spectrum, Daniil Tifonov looks quite dapper in his Ermenegildo Zegna suits, at least for photo shoots. If you have talent, you don't have to dress like a freak or a ***.

[zpianist]

For the record, "anyone" doesn't include me...

Best,

Alistair

me neither.

And @thal, your info about hookers was a little TMI. And I found it hard to enjoy the Schytte (those puns don't work in Norwegian, btw: https://www.forvo.com/word/ludvig_schytte/#da). I don't see how you could like this and not like the Schumann. I found that one of the main complaints about Schumann was his "thick," "unpianistic" textures (which I actually think is an aesthetic. Brahms did this too. and in many cases, even in Traumerei, Schumann was just following strict counterpoint ._.). But ANYWAY the Schytte is much worse in this regard; playing block chords, whose notes all move in the same direction, as a melody? with awkward left hand "slow jumps" to the bass and back?
 

[rubinsteinmad]

Whoa there!

Why cant we respect the Schumann and the Schytte as pieces of music?
They are both masterpieces (if you consider the fact that the term "masterpiece" is relative to the composer's level of talent )



I think the Schytte is very interesting. I love to read the Schumann Concerto and listen to the imaginary pianist inside my head perform it, but when I actually listen to it played out loud on YT, it just doesn't feel the same. However, that's just me. I feel the same way about the Tchaikovsky Concerto #1 (which I used to LOVE <333333).


Oh and BTW Schytte was Danish, not Norwegian

[thalbergmad]

And, i was not even attempting a pun on "schytte" as it is pronounced "shooter".

Thal

[visitor]

Yes, youre right. We both throw sh!t way too much (especially me).

Are there any concerti you'd recommend the most? I really like the Schytte; it is one of the most beautiful concerti I've heard.

Just passing buy and droppi g an fyi
Also consider
Scharwenka (all 4 but i esp *heart no 3)

Some honorable mentions
Taktakishvilli no 1 ie

the other mvmnts are linked on yt suggestion feed if you click into it

Kabalevsky no 3 ( i consider this one of the most enjoyable concertos in the entire literature)
Reinecke 1 and 2
You may have to hunt a bit to find the score.+audio they are mostly on yt and they are mixed as full uploads or movement only ie

Bonus (and likely highly enjoyable to those thae see the charm of kabalevsky no 3, ia likely learning this as next concerto as i have purchased two new old stock books of this score for two piano reduction just need ro save up for a collaborative pianist afrer i work it out)---Jirko no 3

[ahinton]

And, i was not even attempting a pun on "schytte" as it is pronounced "shooter".

Except without sounding the "r" at the end; don't forget that mamny members here are American and would pronounce the "r" in "shooter"! "Shoota" might be more accurate. But your point is nevertheless well made.

Best,

Alistair

[zpianist]

Except without sounding the "r" at the end; don't forget that mamny members here are American and would pronounce the "r" in "shooter"! "Shoota" might be more accurate. But your point is nevertheless well made.

Best,

Alistair

yep, Americans would say it like "shoot-ur" (as in "urtext")

Visitor, the Reinecke concerto is quite interesting; it's a very Romantic, or at least, very Sturm und Drang type piece. I always thought he was an "anachronism" and a Leipzig conservative in terms of his compositions, despite living alongside many of the Romantics. I seem to be wrong though...

Oh and the Jirko seems like a pretty fun work. I would actually perform that, though I'd probably alienate all the judges were I to play it at a competition (chances are that would the only way I could possibly perform it). I like the Kabalevsky too, but I've been subjected to hearing it so many times, butchered in various forms, that I kind of gag whenever I hear it again. (It's considered the "Youth concerto" and so many little kids play it as their "entry level concerto," similar to the Haydn 11 or Mozart 12.)

[zpianist]

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[visitor]

yep, Americans would say it like "shoot-ur" (as in "urtext")

Visitor, the Reinecke concerto is quite interesting; it's a very Romantic, or at least, very Sturm und Drang type piece. I always thought he was an "anachronism" and a Leipzig conservative in terms of his compositions, despite living alongside many of the Romantics. I seem to be wrong though...

Oh and the Jirko seems like a pretty fun work. I would actually perform that, though I'd probably alienate all the judges were I to play it at a competition (chances are that would the only way I could possibly perform it). I like the Kabalevsky too, but I've been subjected to hearing it so many times, butchered in various forms, that I kind of gag whenever I hear it again. (It's considered the "Youth concerto" and so many little kids play it as their "entry level concerto," similar to the Haydn 11 or Mozart 12.)

Reinecke was sorta inconsistent in his 'conservatism' there are brief flashes of the more traditional 'romanticisim' we would expect but for the most part he's pretty benign but the concertos and the chamber works are particularly nice, bit spottier on solo piano works, but i do like the restraint and refinement in them. it's interesting how neglected his piano music is given how popular his student Grieg is.
btw this lovely little sonatina is one of my favorite in Carl's solo output, actually the whole set is nice (this is part of 3 sonatinas published as a set)

glad someone appreciates the Jirko, it doesn't take itself too seriously 
too bad about Kabalevsky 3, I wish it wasn't subjected to that kind of abuse, I pretty much listen exclusively to the Gilels recording of it.

[rubinsteinmad]

. it's interesting how neglected his piano music is given how popular his student Grieg is.

Actually Grieg is not too popular; many of his piano pieces have been barely recorded professionally.

(But TBR, I'm not much of a fan of Grieg's less-famous piano pieces)

[zpianist]

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