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Offline spenstar

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Chopin waltzes in octaves: is it a good idea?
on: May 13, 2016, 03:39:12 AM
Most of the Chopin waltzes have single notes at a time one the right hand. Do you think it would be a good exercise to change it to octaves? or is this an inefficient way to work on them
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Re: Chopin waltzes in octaves: is it a good idea?
Reply #1 on: May 13, 2016, 04:14:39 AM
Go do em. Have fun.
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Re: Chopin waltzes in octaves: is it a good idea?
Reply #2 on: May 13, 2016, 06:47:58 AM
Just don't work on op. 34 no. 3, or else your wrist will fall off  ;)
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Re: Chopin waltzes in octaves: is it a good idea?
Reply #3 on: May 13, 2016, 07:41:14 AM
No I don't!

There are many pieces designed as octaves for both technical and musical benefits.

Chopin's OP.64 no.1 was adapted into doubles, so feel free to have a go at that.
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Re: Chopin waltzes in octaves: is it a good idea?
Reply #4 on: May 13, 2016, 12:07:03 PM
yes, it's the first step in improving on existing music, or more accurately the first step in forming your own concerto version/concert transcription of existing music, although to be fair , some of the beefier ones are already 'concertized'.
you can and should also look at voice doubling in the left hand where a single base note exists, double it up or double it and add the fifth of the harmony.
 left hand chords can be beefed up by finding places to add a 7th or 9th especially when the melody contains these tones even if only as embellishments or passing notes. play around w/ it.
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Re: Chopin waltzes in octaves: is it a good idea?
Reply #5 on: May 14, 2016, 07:58:25 PM
Why modify something that is absolutely PERFECT?
Why not give e.g. 25 no 10 a go instead?
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Re: Chopin waltzes in octaves: is it a good idea?
Reply #6 on: May 14, 2016, 08:15:03 PM
Quote from: kawai_cs on May 14, 2016, 07:58:25 PM
Why modify something that is absolutely PERFECT?
Why not give e.g. 25 no 10 a go instead?
That's what I'm saying.
Kill two birds w one stone.
Learn technique on something what it is for.
Learn new repertoire.
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Offline mjames

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Re: Chopin waltzes in octaves: is it a good idea?
Reply #7 on: May 15, 2016, 05:39:17 AM
just play schubert or the polonaise op. 44 if you want to work on your octaves
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Re: Chopin waltzes in octaves: is it a good idea?
Reply #8 on: May 19, 2016, 05:15:29 PM
Just practice 25-10 as your daily regiment. Or the last phrased measure of 10-5.
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