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Topic: Rachmaninoff Opus 16 No 3  (Read 1508 times)

Offline lflp

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Rachmaninoff Opus 16 No 3
on: July 26, 2016, 03:03:40 PM
Hi there
In the above mentioned piano-piece by Rachmaninoff I have
a problem in bar number 6 (see the attached Photo).
My question concerns the top notes in the right hand (the key is
D major).
Should it be played: #F,E, Eb, D or should it be played
                              #F,E, E, D?

Hope you can help me. Thanks in advance.
Greetings
lflp
Flemming
 

Offline 109natsu

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Re: Rachmaninoff Opus 16 No 3
Reply #1 on: July 26, 2016, 04:01:08 PM
Hi lflp,

F#, E, E, D is the right way, because there are two sharps in D Major: F# and C#

I don't know where the Eb came from, but I see a natural in the 2nd E. Was there an Eb somewhere in the previous measure?

Then that might change it to

F#, Eb, E♮ D

Natsu

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Re: Rachmaninoff Opus 16 No 3
Reply #2 on: July 26, 2016, 04:37:50 PM
Hi 109natsu

No there is no E flat in the previous measure, that is
why the sign at the second E puzzles me.
Could it be that in the bass line there is # before the E and
the the sign in front of the second E in the treble line is added
to stress that the second E has to be played as a normal E.

Greetings
lflp/Flemming

Offline pencilart3

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Re: Rachmaninoff Opus 16 No 3
Reply #3 on: July 26, 2016, 04:47:44 PM
There is no Eb. Publishers will often times put an extra sign in where it is not necessary to eliminate confusion when it sounds like it should be played a different way. I did not play it out myself but perhaps the chord sounds odd? And perhaps the E flat in it would sound more "natural"? (haha) They simply added the natural sign so that you don't play the flat without looking because it sounds right, and thus form incorrect habits. :)
You might have seen one of my videos without knowing it was that nut from the forum
youtube.com/noahjohnson1810

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Re: Rachmaninoff Opus 16 No 3
Reply #4 on: July 26, 2016, 05:35:26 PM
OK
Thank you for your answar. I will play it like an E then.

Thanks for the help and understanding.
lflp/Flemming
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