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Topic: accidentals in nocturne op 9 no 2 question  (Read 2363 times)

Offline itzik0525168

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accidentals in nocturne op 9 no 2 question
on: November 30, 2016, 11:02:26 PM
hi,
i start learning the piece and i want to know about local accidentals.
they relevant for all the measure? as long as there isn't natural (♮)
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Offline dogperson

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Re: accidentals in nocturne op 9 no 2 question
Reply #1 on: November 30, 2016, 11:42:49 PM
I have never heard the term 'local accidentals'.   In Chopin 9, No 2, the key signature indicates that all E B A are flat, unless otherwise marked in the score. In measure 2, there is a natural sign prior the first E in the bass clef.  That means that all E, on the same line in this measure will also be natural, i.e., not flat as per the key signature.   

The E with a natural sign is called an 'accidental', because it is a difference from the key signature.



Offline itzik0525168

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Re: accidentals in nocturne op 9 no 2 question
Reply #2 on: December 03, 2016, 08:39:34 AM
still working on my english ;D
ok. thanks

Offline frege

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Re: accidentals in nocturne op 9 no 2 question
Reply #3 on: December 16, 2016, 02:28:58 PM
still working on my english ;D
ok. thanks

Lol I actually think local accidental makes a lot of sense and wouldn't be a bad proposed naming convention. It's a bit like local vs global/absolute in computer science. Local accidental could be one acting for a bar whereas a global accidental could be one in the key signature.

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Re: accidentals in nocturne op 9 no 2 question
Reply #4 on: December 21, 2016, 08:26:52 PM
 That means that all E, on the same line in this measure will also be natural, i.e., not flat as per the key signature.   


This is true but some editors are careless about octaves, they don't always follow the convention.
Tim
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