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Schumann's Album for the Young
on: April 15, 2017, 03:52:55 AM
Has anyone made a project of learning the entire thing? I want to do this once I finished university this year.

The pieces are relatively simple but so beautiful. I love Knecht Ruprecht. When the melody moves to the left hand in the middle it's very mysterious.

Also can anyone reccomend similar collections of simple but beautiful pieces?

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Re: Schumann's Album for the Young
Reply #1 on: April 15, 2017, 11:25:09 PM
Has anyone made a project of learning the entire thing? I want to do this once I finished university this year.

The pieces are relatively simple but so beautiful. I love Knecht Ruprecht. When the melody moves to the left hand in the middle it's very mysterious.

Also can anyone reccomend similar collections of simple but beautiful pieces?

This is half musicological fact, and secondly personal opinion.

1) In the 19th century, when this music was written, it was not the norm to play collections in recital.  The first reason is that most concerts were what we would call today "variety shows."  Nobody, including the Composers themselves, played all of the Chopin Etudes or, until Clara Schumann, even played a Beethoven Sonata in its entirety.

The first act of such a concert would be an Orchestra performing a movement from a particular Symphony or an Opera Overture (just like today).  And then, the rest of the program would include performances by various instrumental soloists, singers, a movement from a Piano Sonata or Concerto, and usually a Chamber Music group (Kenneth Hamilton, "After The Golden Age.").

2)  In the latter half of the 20th Century, the only Schumann Collection regularly performed (and recorded) by all of the great Concert Pianists is the "Kinderszenen," which I play.  It is a great piece, and I highly recommend it, if you have not already learned it.

3)  If you pursue your personal muse by playing the "Album For The Young," please remember that Clara was the one who originally catalogued this great composer's piano music, after his death.  To my recollection, this lady performed everything this man ever composed.

And, for the record, all of her performances have been researched by musicologists.  Accordingly, the "Album For the Young," is never listed in this catalogue as any piece she ever played in performance.

Think about it.

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Re: Schumann's Album for the Young
Reply #2 on: April 16, 2017, 08:02:13 AM
Since the OP didn't even mention performing the whole collection, I will not address that issue, but will attempt a start at an answer to a question he DID ask:

There are quite a number of other collections of pieces for children, of varied degrees of difficulty and musical value. Some that I have looked at are:

Bartok's 2 volumes entitled "For Children" which contain some real gems.

Kabalevsky OP. 29 and 37 - some of these are very simple indeed, but there are still some worthwhile pieces towards the end of both collections.

Tchaikovsky Op. 39 "Children's Album" has some pieces which are definitely worth looking into.

Prokofiev Op 65 consists of 12 pieces for choildren which are probably rather harder than the others above. I know very little about these, but they might be worth investigating.

Yu might even include Bach in this list, since he collected pieces (not all by himself) into notebooks for use by his own children!

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Re: Schumann's Album for the Young
Reply #3 on: April 21, 2017, 07:08:48 AM
Thanks for the tips to the tippers.

I'm not interested in performing these pieces for other people necessarily, though if anyone ever asled me to play any I might. I'm more interested in learning these pieces because there are some gems amongst them and it seems a shame to neglect beautiful pieces just because they're simple.

Mass popularity doesn't mean that there's no charm in them and Clara Schumann was famous for her virtuousity. I doubt a concert of true children's albums would have the same bang for Clara Schumann or Franz Liszt as other more impressive pieces like Knight of the Rocking horse played at speed or Grand Gallop Chromatique. Kinderszenen aren't really pieces for children if you play them at speed. Vladimir Horowitz thought Traumerei was one of the most difficult pieces of all time and used it as an encore piece regularly.

There's a lot of beauty to be found in these simple compositions by serious composers and I think they often get overlooked because they're not as flashy or as impressive to watch someone play as Chopin Etudes.

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Re: Schumann's Album for the Young
Reply #4 on: April 21, 2017, 08:00:45 AM
I would absolutely agree.

This video on Youtube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUoQk7nUfj4) made a great impression on me when I first came across it. The beauty of the pieces is superbly matched by the fabulous technique of the late Zoltan Kocsis.

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Re: Schumann's Album for the Young
Reply #5 on: April 21, 2017, 03:16:51 PM
Most pieces listed in the thread below are not sets, but you may want to consider going through the suggestions there. I've linked to bernhard's collection of links  ;D

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