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Offline pianoplayerstar

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Berklee ONLINE, Lynda, or Other? How Good Are They?
« on: February 14, 2018, 08:07:55 PM »
What is your opinion on how students can learn from these online tools for teaching/learning?

For some purists, "I'd NEVER advise anyone to learn music, whether theory, composition, or any serious music education online - there is NOTHING like live teaching."

Your thoughts?

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Re: Berklee ONLINE, Lynda, or Other? How Good Are They?
«Reply #1 on: February 16, 2018, 12:17:22 AM »
What is your opinion on how students can learn from these online tools for teaching/learning?

For some purists, "I'd NEVER advise anyone to learn music, whether theory, composition, or any serious music education online - there is NOTHING like live teaching."

Your thoughts?

I have a BA in Music Degree from an accredited (NASM) music school from the University of Texas at Austin.  And, a few years ago, I attained a Certificate in "Harmonic Ear Training" from the Berklee School of Music.

In a phrase, most Music Schools infer/suggest, (but do not promise) that any Matriculate/Student will leave/graduate from that particular Music School with a significant set of musical skills.  That is a lie!

However, what they promise you at Berklee (the most successful online school in the world!) is that if you put forth the sincere intentional effort, they will get you from (Linear Causality) from Point A to Point B.

My teacher, Roberta Radley, is most likely the best music theory teacher in the world.  And, accordingly, if you peruse the Faculty Pages of their Online Program, you will find out that, (in terms of their other Curricula), they only hire the very best.

That means that these people have actual Music Industry Pedigrees.

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Re: Berklee ONLINE, Lynda, or Other? How Good Are They?
«Reply #2 on: February 16, 2018, 12:45:22 AM »
I heard that Berklee Online isn't actually run by Berklee but is more like a licensed affiliate (or something like that). I was looking into it a few years back and heard some pretty discouraging reviews from current and old students.

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Re: Berklee ONLINE, Lynda, or Other? How Good Are They?
«Reply #3 on: February 16, 2018, 11:50:39 PM »
I heard that Berkley Online isn't actually run by Berkley but is more like a licensed affiliate (or something like that). I was looking into it a few years back and heard some pretty discouraging reviews from current and old students.
Is it proper for a tiny University (which does not have one single edifice) to maximize their Online University by contracting out the marketing, and sign-in process.  Of course, it is.

As far as the courses are concerned, this is the best (regardless of Academic Discipline) highest rated Online University distance learning in the world!  I challenge anyone to find any music school on the planet that can match their curriculum or their faculty.

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Re: Berklee ONLINE, Lynda, or Other? How Good Are They?
«Reply #4 on: February 17, 2018, 12:29:44 AM »
Is it proper for a tiny University (which does not have one single edifice) to maximize their Online University by contracting out the marketing, and sign-in process.  Of course, it is.

As far as the courses are concerned, this is the best (regardless of Academic Discipline) highest rated Online University distance learning in the world!  I challenge anyone to find any music school on the planet that can match their curriculum or their faculty.

Don't shoot the messenger. I'm only saying what I heard. It doesn't hurt to be cautious.

As far as Berklee is concerned, I've only heard good things about it. My point was that enrolling in Berklee Online may not give you the same experience as actually attending Berklee in real life.

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Re: Berklee ONLINE, Lynda, or Other? How Good Are They?
«Reply #5 on: February 17, 2018, 01:04:29 AM »
I have a BA in Music Degree from an accredited (NASM) music school from the University of Texas at Austin.  And, a few years ago, I attained a Certificate in "Harmonic Ear Training" from the Berklee School of Music.



Certificate in "Harmonic Ear Training" from the Berklee School of Music:

https://online.berklee.edu/courses/harmonic-ear-training-recognizing-chord-progressions

This looks like it could be good.

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Re: Berklee ONLINE, Lynda, or Other? How Good Are They?
«Reply #6 on: February 17, 2018, 05:29:00 AM »
As far as Berklee is concerned, I've only heard good things about it. My point was that enrolling in Berklee Online may not give you the same experience as actually attending Berklee in real life.

Would be quite naive to expect that from any online program.

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Re: Berklee ONLINE, Lynda, or Other? How Good Are They?
«Reply #7 on: February 17, 2018, 05:59:55 AM »
Would be quite naive to expect that from any online program.

Of course, but there are a lot of naive people out there which is why I recommend caution when topics like this come up.

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Re: Berklee ONLINE, Lynda, or Other? How Good Are They?
«Reply #8 on: February 17, 2018, 07:41:23 AM »
What is your opinion on how students can learn from these online tools for teaching/learning?

For some purists, "I'd NEVER advise anyone to learn music, whether theory, composition, or any serious music education online - there is NOTHING like live teaching."

Your thoughts?


We live in an era where so much music and knowledge of music is available online like no time before.
Even though I worked at a college as an IT pro, I am still a Luddite myself. that said I have seen numerous teachers of different subjects successfully take advantage of online, and I have heard many students praising ( and not praising ) thier online access. However , the music performing students still do their "Juries"  live and in person . Some things work great online, and some need both online and in person. It can all be balanced.  I would not call it purism if a teacher only wanted to teach in person.

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Re: Berklee ONLINE, Lynda, or Other? How Good Are They?
«Reply #9 on: February 18, 2018, 05:07:30 AM »
For some purists, "I'd NEVER advise anyone to learn music, whether theory, composition, or any serious music education online - there is NOTHING like live teaching."
I've never heard anyone say that.  It looks like something written to "provoke interest through controversy" which is unfortunate.

I have studied various on-line courses, in particular the Coursera ones (Berkely does some of these).  I find they're good for giving a review of things you have already studied, or at the other end giving an introduction and rough idea of things.  For the ones that are more difficult, you can take them as often as you want and get further each time.  Some of the fellow students in discussion forums are remarkable, and strike me as probably being semi-professional in the least.

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Re: Berklee ONLINE, Lynda, or Other? How Good Are They?
«Reply #10 on: February 19, 2018, 12:25:23 AM »
Don't shoot the messenger. I'm only saying what I heard. It doesn't hurt to be cautious.

As far as Berklee is concerned, I've only heard good things about it. My point was that enrolling in Berklee Online may not give you the same experience as actually attending Berklee in real life.
Thank you for your insight, personal experience, and most of all, your candor.

Therefore, I will list the following: and this Lady may like it, and she may not.  That is Berklee Online and Regular Faculty member, Roberta Radley, the best traditional music theory teacher on this planet, who taught me (Online).  And, she has four published DVD'S on Ear Training. (Amazon.com) to prove it.

This is especially true because she almost flunked music theory as a student.  However, once she had to write charts as a jazz musician, it all fell into place.  Then, she received her Degree in Composition.

Accordingly, I will list two links to this Lady, who is in my opinion is also the best Scatt Singer alive.  And, please remember, in the second link, she is singing and hearing this all in "Real Time."

Enjoy!

https://online.berklee.edu/faculty/roberta-radley