Lang Lang and Evgeny Kissin are both some of the most recognizable, and famous classical pianists, yet they are bashed for their lack of musicality, and criticized for priortizing showing off in their concerts.I personally would never listen to either's record for enjoyment's sake, but I have to say, I believe their techincal mastery of the piano and their repertoire, are right up there with the greats. especially when you see them in live performances, or videos of such recitals.Yuja Wang is often praised for her virtuosity, but I find her nowhere near Lang Lang or Kissin's level, she plays wonderfully Volodos's Transcription of Turkish March, and Cziffra's Transcription of The Flight of Bumblebee, I bet she worked on those piece for a long time.but Yuja Wang struggles badly to play Prokofiev's 3rd Piano Concerto, don't even get me started on her performance of Prokofiev's 2nd Piano Concerto, horrible!
Who cares about their technique? I find Kissin so much more pleasurable to listen to. His playing style suits my favorite kind of music very well...
Since technique is a huge reason behind the sound they make you probably should care.
if you think that Lance Armstrong and every Professional Athlete on earth are the only ones who use performance enhancing drugs, think again. Why else would pianists (like Olga Kern) play superhuman in contest, and then when you hear them (personally) in recital, it doesn't even sound like the same pianist.It is high time for the music critics of this world to cut the Hype and then start telling the real truth about all these so-called Herculean superstar pianists.
Their, as you phrase it, "sound," is nothing more than a Deuthche Grammaphone manufactured illusion. It is not how they sound like in live performance.
No wonder... I bought "Yundi Li, Seiji Ozawa & Berlin Philharmonic's Prokofiev Piano Concerto No. 2", It's impeccable and super fast, but in yundi's other recorded performamces of the concerto, particularily the one in Hong Kong, was an absolute trainwreck, you would think it's played by an amature!!!But would you say Argerich's high when performing? she's always fast!!!
I have an 81 year old Tuner/Technician, and I have a 40 year old DMA Concerto Technique Coach. They only agree on one thing. And, that is every "New" Competition Winner Pianist they listen to plays way to fast. There is no musicality, but only "Supposed" Herculean technique at the piano.Once again, this is all Hype, and worse. For those who want to prove me false, just "Put Up Or Shut Up."You pick the time, place, and the group of Pianists, and then we will just see what is truth and then what is reality!
Name one pianist that you enjoys listening to, who have subpar technical mastery.These are the pianists that I listens to the most:1. Marc-andre Hamelin (Absolute Favorite.)2. Krystian Zimmerman (Used to worship him.)3. Maurizio Pollini (Mixing Delicacy with Passion.)4. Valentina Lisitsa (Best Liszt Interpreter in my opinion.)5. Daniel Barenboim (Best Mozart and Beethoven Interpreter in my opinion.)All of whom possess supreme virtuosity.
There's a reason why in order to pronounce Lisitsa's name, one must say "Liszt"!
Name one pianist that you enjoys listening to, who have subpar technical mastery.5. Daniel Barenboim (Best Mozart and Beethoven Interpreter in my opinion.)
If the kind of MIDI thing you said exist, or is gonna be built soon, then it's a very sad thing for us music lovers who prefer authenticity,
Do we sneer at singers who, horrors, use a microphone in a large venue, rather than learning to scream like an opera singer?
My favorites:1. Marc-andre Hamelin (My absolute favorite as well.)2. Arcadi Volodos (Superhuman perfection and attention to detail, while still being delicate and passionate.)3. Mikhail Pletnev (Raw musical ability and technique. Never lets me down.)5. Andras Schiff (Mozart, Beethoven, Schubert and Brahms interpretations near magical in their effectiveness.)5. Daniil Trifonov (Lively and playful piano playing, not afraid to take risks and breath new life into classic repertoire.)
I feel we share the same taste for classical music somehow, haha! I love all the pianists you mentioned!
I don't. Hamelin ruined the Henselt Concerto, turned Alkan into super Czerny, made painting a fence more exciting than the Reger/Telemann variations and took the Rubinstein 4th Concerto out of circulation for a generation.All fingers no brain.Schiff is all brain no fingers.
I love Hamelin because his playing can be so even that his fingers are like a machine. He can play lightning fast passages almost like a robot!
That is exactly why i dont like him.
Very valid points by both of you. Many musiacians today can play impressively fast, perhaps thousands more than many years ago in their age. However, it all sounds the same, and more important - technique should be only a WAY to achieve the goal, and not the goal itself.Horowitz is a legend, because he was one a a very few in history, who perfectly matched top skills with incredible musicality and understanding of music. Just listen to his Scriabin preludes or Etudes - pure poetry. But these are geniuses of their own class, of whom very few were living and even though they died decades ago, we are coming back to them.Or listen to Samson Fracois. He is one of the best examples of what technique is for. If you listen to him on the surface, one would think that he plays "squarely", or I do not know how to name it. I mean, that his music is made of squares instead of flow of music, and that he fights with technical struggles in whatever he plays. But listen deeper and deeper and you will soon find out that his technique was absoutely superb, his rubatos, melody and so on... it's all unhumanly good and he was one of that kind that ever existed.Arrau is his young years, and even later on concerts, is told to be, that was playing much faster that on late recordings.And Zimerman. He is also one of a kind. In his own galaxy. I never experienced this with any other pianist. He can play absurdly fast and complicated pieces, but you still hear that this is all under control, and there is time for everything. He can play 50% faster than 99% pianist on the globe, and you still feel that peace of him and calmness and feel safe and secure, even though there is thunderstorm happening. I do not know any other pianist, living or not, who's technique was delivering such experience.