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Offline soultrap

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Hi all,

I'm currently preparing a program for recitals, performances, competitions and music school auditions. The pieces I'm preparing are as follows:

Tchaikovsky Concerto no. 1 in B flat minor, (1st mvmt)
Rachmaninoff sonata no. 2 in B flat minor,
Chopin 12 etudes, op. 10,
Beethoven sonata in E major, op. 109,
Bach prelude and fugue in G minor, Book II
Chopin Nocturne in D flat major op. 27 no. 2

I'm curious about how you would prepare a large program? There's always the problem of not having enough time to drill each piece thoroughly (for example, single handed, legato, staccato, dotted rhythm, single voice etc.) How do you guys approach a recital program, and how do you practice?

And, are there any suggestions as to how I should practice these pieces?
Pieces I'm working on:
Beethoven op. 109
Chopin Etudes op.10
Tchaikovsky Seasons June & October
Tchaikovsky Russian scherzo op. 1 no. 1
Tchaikovsky concerto 1
Mozart K 488
Rachmaninoff sonata 2
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Offline lostinidlewonder

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Re: Different ways of maintaining and polishing large program?
Reply #1 on: June 18, 2019, 04:13:16 AM
If you need to have these done in the near future and are not simply playing through the pieces as you plan for the performance then this is just a drain of your time. Ideally you would want to have mastered the pieces prepared for performance many months or even years before and merely play them all from start to finish as a means to keep them polished.

If it is in the distant future that you want to present these then you have to measure how many pieces you can study effectively at once. Playing pieces at this level you should already know quite well what this limit is and if not then it's time to investigate. Once a piece is mastered all you need to do is play through it to maintain it rather than practice through it, perhaps there may be a very small % of the piece that you may practice though you want to keep the amount here very low otherwise you simply will not be able to manage it once you add the rest of your repertoire for preparation. You do need to keep constant contact with pieces you are preparing for performance and at least play them all once every few days. If the time between playing a piece is left too long things start to get forgotten especially if you are not using sheet music.

As a matter of learning pieces from the beginning you should be capable to use the score and read through the piece multiple times and get from start to finish, doing this over time one will naturally learn most of the piece and then filling in the small gaps with practice drills becomes more apparent. Reading skills need to be at a high level and then awareness and efficient practice method are used to target and to fill in the gaps respectively. In most cases it is inefficient to try to memorize the entire score bar by bar, it is much better to get that overall view from reading and then allow the memorisation process to occur predominantly and especially initially through that constant contact with the entire piece. It is also helpful to paste the pieces you study on a wall to see it in one view, highlighting the parts of the piece and patterns you may observe, this is especially helpful for those visually inclinded and helps have that overall view of a larger body of works.

When I read your ideas of drills single handed, alterations of articulation, rhythm etc these are fine in very very small doses, if you are relying on these tools you simply will be wasting your time, you need to get on with the job of playing it at performance level and not creep to the result. With the amount of works and level you have presented there is simply no room for such beginner/intermediate tools to take centre stage, you should predominantly play large parts of these at concert level in quick time. If you find that this is a crazy idea then the level of the pieces you are trying to study is too hard for you and most probably you will find this a very difficult task to contend with. In that case you should build up your playing/practice method so that you can deal with it at this level of efficiency.
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Re: Different ways of maintaining and polishing large program?
Reply #2 on: July 18, 2019, 10:24:49 AM
When Claudio Arrau was a child, his teacher was Martin Krause, a student of Franz Liszt. For his lessons with Krause, Arrau had to prepare one Etude d’execution transcendente per week (!) and he was able to do so.

Now imagine, even a pianist like Arrau admitted that he had to play a piece at least three times in concert before he was really able to perform it properly.

What I want to say with this: If you want to practice performing in public you have to perform in public as often as you can. Make sure, your performances are successes by choosing pieces you can master flawlessly.

As for your repertoire pieces: Depending on the time left, give them time to grow. If possible, put them aside for several days and then return back. If time is short, make recordings and exclusively practice the passages that don’t go well for at least 95% of your sessions. I know this is hard, but it is worth it. Good luck!

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Re: Different ways of maintaining and polishing large program?
Reply #3 on: July 26, 2019, 10:45:48 PM
Prep years in advance so you have a few that you already know.  Dust them off 6 months+ before the performance.  As you lead up to the recital, just focus on performing them and the ability to "just perform them." 

If it's a piece you will keep revisiting, you'll sink lower and lower into the piece as you study it more.  There's no end.  Aim for "controlling" the piece and being in the moment as much as possible.  Controlling meaning you know whatever it is you know about the piece and could change it on the fly if you wanted.  You're not just running on autopilot, although having it glued together isn't bad in case your brain craps out during a performance.  Autopilot can give you the best seat (and scariest seat) in the house.  Beyond that autopilot lower brain fingers-have-it-memorized function, if you can control that, that's great.  *Bob is aware he's gone off on a side track or has just forget the point of his post....*
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