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Piano Repertoire
on: August 18, 2020, 07:37:38 AM
Hey!
I am a 20-year old pianist from India. I am currently in my third year of my diploma in music, and this year we need to choose a theme for our final recital, which is about 30 minutes long. I have decided to explore pieces that deviate from the traditional structure or form, notably extended single-movement forms, etc. I already have the 2nd Scherzo from Chopin, and I do not want to trade that for another topic because it could be a time-saver. I am definitely into Impressionistic music, but I need some help with choosing the "right" pieces. 
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Re: Piano Repertoire
Reply #1 on: August 20, 2020, 03:28:57 AM
I've ways loved this ,worth looking into, it's beautiful

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Re: Piano Repertoire
Reply #2 on: September 11, 2020, 01:01:06 AM
If you want to choose pieces that deviate from form you would do well to choose from Schumann.

All of Schumann's big pieces did not conform to any previous structure seen in piano music. He essentially invented the free-form suite.

If you are doing a 30 minute recital you could fit in the first movement of the Schumann Sonata, which despite its name does not fit sonata form at all. But an issue may be that it is really extremely difficult and would require a lot of time and work.

If you want to play something less demanding you could choose either the Op.2 Papillons or Op.15 Kinderszenen, which aren't easy at all but definitely veer towards the lighter side of piano repertoire.


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Re: Piano Repertoire
Reply #3 on: December 10, 2020, 04:56:05 AM
Thank you so much !!

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Re: Piano Repertoire
Reply #4 on: December 10, 2020, 05:00:10 AM
Alright, please ignore my last request because apparently that theme has already been taken.

I may be looking at more themes, but at this moment, with a month left to go for college, I have decided to explore the theme of "Texts being set to piano music."

These texts can be anything: a sonnet, a poem, a short story, etc.

I have already 3-4 pieces up on my list, but it would be really really helpful if someone can help me out in this, as I feel I have hit a wall.

Thank you so much!

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Re: Piano Repertoire
Reply #5 on: December 10, 2020, 06:12:19 AM
That's tough.  If you mean literally music set to texts, in solo piano, without voice or other instrument.

Well, an obvious one is one of several arrangements of Debussy's "L'après-midi..." ... and several of the preludes from both books.  But that leaves out the magisterial songs of Debussy set to texts of Mallarmé.

And, you said no Debussy, but he's one of the richer sources (even just in the Préludes) of text<->music correspondance.  Most of the text of the préludes are based on myth, at best, but, the songs on texts of Mallarmé and the orchestral "Pr. après-midi"

I'm the reverse of what you want advice from:  I know a lot about French poetry, but nearly nothing of French music except for Debussy, and the other famous suspects.

No arrangements, but native piano solo pieces. 

That gets more difficult.

Obviously, some of the Bach-Busoni Chorale-Preludes, but that doesn't fit with your program.

Or something like the Chopin variations on La ci darem, but that's way too much without some severe editing for time on your part.

I think there are some from Schönberg that draw from the Sprachgesänge, but I don't recall.

That's a difficult challenge, to me, to come up with something.

Something that fits with your program.

Obviously, one of the Moszkowski or Liszt arrangements from Mozart and Wagner.

I don't know, one of the Brahms Ballades, I suppose.  Those might be a bit simple, mechanically, but they fit the description.

I'd like to know how this ends up.
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Re: Piano Repertoire
Reply #6 on: December 10, 2020, 03:18:30 PM
Liszt's arrangements are your best bet. Schumann Widmung, Schubert Standchen, etc.

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Reply #7 on: December 10, 2020, 03:33:59 PM
That's tough.  If you mean literally music set to texts, in solo piano, without voice or other instrument.

Well, an obvious one is one of several arrangements of Debussy's "L'après-midi..." ... and several of the preludes from both books.  But that leaves out the magisterial songs of Debussy set to texts of Mallarmé.

And, you said no Debussy, but he's one of the richer sources (even just in the Préludes) of text<->music correspondance.  Most of the text of the préludes are based on myth, at best, but, the songs on texts of Mallarmé and the orchestral "Pr. après-midi"

I'm the reverse of what you want advice from:  I know a lot about French poetry, but nearly nothing of French music except for Debussy, and the other famous suspects.

No arrangements, but native piano solo pieces. 

That gets more difficult.

Obviously, some of the Bach-Busoni Chorale-Preludes, but that doesn't fit with your program.

Or something like the Chopin variations on La ci darem, but that's way too much without some severe editing for time on your part.

I think there are some from Schönberg that draw from the Sprachgesänge, but I don't recall.

That's a difficult challenge, to me, to come up with something.

Something that fits with your program.

Obviously, one of the Moszkowski or Liszt arrangements from Mozart and Wagner.

I don't know, one of the Brahms Ballades, I suppose.  Those might be a bit simple, mechanically, but they fit the description.

I'd like to know how this ends up.


 
Before anything, I am new to Piano Street. So don't judge me if I am literally typing in the names of the accounts (without tagging them).

That being said, thank you for your time. I have actually got some repertoire for this topic, such as, the Petrarch Sonnets and Liebestraume (written by Freiligrath) by Liszt, Gaspard de la nuit by Ravel (written by Aloysius Bertrand), Prokofiev's Vision fugitives by Konstantin Balmont.

I can resonate with your thoughts on this topic for how difficult it is, which is why I have also decided to explore paintings. Thus, the restructured name for the theme is "Piano Pieces Inspired by Texts and Paintings".

Now, I hope this brings some peace to me, and to you, my friend XD.

And thank you achoo42. I did exactly that for the Liszts.

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Re: Piano Repertoire
Reply #8 on: December 10, 2020, 07:07:07 PM
That being said, thank you for your time. I have actually got some repertoire for this topic, such as, the Petrarch Sonnets and Liebestraume (written by Freiligrath) by Liszt, Gaspard de la nuit by Ravel (written by Aloysius Bertrand), Prokofiev's Vision fugitives by Konstantin Balmont.

I can resonate with your thoughts on this topic for how difficult it is, which is why I have also decided to explore paintings. Thus, the restructured name for the theme is "Piano Pieces Inspired by Texts and Paintings".

Good!  Yes, you found pieces better suited to your program and, obviously, pieces which can showcase your abilities as a pianist.  The examples I stumbled across in my brain were just the first things that came to mind, but you've clearly done your "homework."

The paintings <-> music, that's even a more difficult challenge. 

I'd still like to hear how you decide with that.
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Re: Piano Repertoire
Reply #9 on: December 11, 2020, 04:36:56 PM
Good!  Yes, you found pieces better suited to your program and, obviously, pieces which can showcase your abilities as a pianist.  The examples I stumbled across in my brain were just the first things that came to mind, but you've clearly done your "homework."

The paintings <-> music, that's even a more difficult challenge. 

I'd still like to hear how you decide with that.


Muggorgsky - Pictures at an Exhibition by Hartmann
Granados - Goyescas by Goya
Debussy - L’isle joyeuse by Watteau

These have been my picks so far

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Re: Piano Repertoire
Reply #10 on: December 12, 2020, 06:19:25 AM
Most of Scriabin's late pieces have accompanying poems.

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Re: Piano Repertoire
Reply #11 on: December 20, 2020, 08:23:42 AM
Most of Scriabin's late pieces have accompanying poems.

Can you name some? I was digging up Scriabin's pieces, but i couldn't find one. It is just vocal works.

ALSO UPDATE: I found two Skazkis, Op 34 no 2 and no 4 by Nikolai Medtner, which have a text from Tutchev's and Pushkin's poems respectively. So i think that also works. I also found Glinka's Variations on a Scottish theme, a poem by Thomas Moore.

But i love to hear from you guys if there is more out there. It would be really helpful.


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Re: Piano Repertoire
Reply #12 on: December 20, 2020, 08:58:44 AM
I know my messages might look repetitious, but here is another area that I need help in.

So, my college starts on January, and I have approximately 6.5 months to work on my 30-minute repertoire for my final recital. Here is the list that I have researched on so far:

Liszt Petrarch Sonnets
Liszt Liebestraum
Liszt Harmonies poétiques et religieuses
Ravel Gaspard de La Nuit
Prokofiev Vision Fugitives
Glinka Variations on a Scottish Theme
Medtner Fairy Tale Op 34 no 2 and 4
Mussorgsky Pictures at an Exhibition
Granados Goyescas
Debussy L'isle Joyeuse

Please help me choose pieces from the lot so that I can fit in 30-35 minutes of rep. I must only pick individual pieces, and NOT play the entire work (for eg, Ondine/Gibet from Gaspard, etc.)

I am a DipABRSM (ATCL equivalent) pianist, so I guess that will also help in choosing pieces from me.

If you've read this far, thank you so much for your time! Looking forward to suggestions!

:)




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Re: Piano Repertoire
Reply #13 on: December 21, 2020, 08:42:21 PM
Can you name some? I was digging up Scriabin's pieces, but i couldn't find one.

Almost all of them once you hit Op. 60ish, is my understanding.  Vers la flamme I know for certain has an accompanying poem.

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Re: Piano Repertoire
Reply #14 on: January 21, 2021, 09:32:55 PM
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Can you name some? I was digging up Scriabin's pieces, but i couldn't find one. It is just vocal works.

In the score of Scriabin's fifth sonata Scriabin included the following text, extracted from his essay Le Poème de l'Extase:

I call you to life, O mysterious forces!
Drowned in the obscure depths
Of the creative spirit, timid
Shadows of life, to you I bring audacity


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Please help me choose pieces from the lot so that I can fit in 30-35 minutes of rep.

Honestly, I'd just advice you to choose the pieces you personally like the most from the list. It's much more enjoable to practise that way, at least for me!

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Reply #15 on: January 23, 2021, 02:43:43 PM
In the score of Scriabin's fifth sonata Scriabin included the following text, extracted from his essay Le Poème de l'Extase:

I call you to life, O mysterious forces!
Drowned in the obscure depths
Of the creative spirit, timid
Shadows of life, to you I bring audacity


Honestly, I'd just advice you to choose the pieces you personally like the most from the list. It's much more enjoable to practise that way, at least for me!

Haha I would have loved to, but Scriabin after Sonata No. 4 is just a hell in itself XD.

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Reply #16 on: January 23, 2021, 02:45:26 PM
Okay here is my probable list:
 
Liszt Petrarch Sonnet No. 3
Liszt Invocation, from "Harmonies Poetiques et Religieuses"
Ravel Le Gibet
Prokofiev Vision Fugitives
Medtner Skazki Op 34 No 4

Thoughts?

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Reply #17 on: January 24, 2021, 10:20:44 PM
It looks good to me. What do you feel?

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Re: Piano Repertoire
Reply #18 on: January 29, 2021, 04:58:47 AM
Hi! This is my first post so I have no clue if I'm doing this right but anyways,
I was a former piano student from ages 6-13, I am 16 now and I want to get back into playing some classical repertoire but have no idea what pieces would be fit for me!
I believe my level according to abrsm was about a 6, that's what my last couple performance songs before I quit were rated (Schubert impromptu op 90 no2, Mozart sonata no 6). Since quitting I have developed good confidence (old teacher destroyed it)  in myself and continue to play the flute so my fingers have stayed trained.
If anyone has any suggestions on some nice repertoire that is somewhat challenging but not impossible that would truly be so appreciated!

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Re: Piano Repertoire
Reply #19 on: January 29, 2021, 08:29:01 AM
I suggest trying the final movement of Beethoven's Hammerklavier Sonata. It is a wonderful work.

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Reply #20 on: January 31, 2021, 12:13:23 AM
I just don't get what people see in the last movement of the Hammerklavier. I have tried getting into it several times but I just can't. I love fugues, and I understand the structure of it, but it just sounds so ugly and goes on forever and just kind of randomly shifts into the different parts. It seems to me like Beethoven wanted to just punish the musician as well as the listener by writing the hardest fugue ever, and while I think that is funny in concept, I dont really enjoy hearing it in practise!

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Reply #21 on: February 02, 2021, 07:52:01 AM
Honestly, I have no idea why I love the last movement. Also the beginning makes it the most interesting sonata movement ever.
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