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Offline ravelfan07

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Moonlight sonata, third movement
on: March 23, 2024, 01:28:05 AM
How would one go about practicing this first page?
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Re: Moonlight sonata, third movement
Reply #1 on: March 23, 2024, 01:29:43 AM
Quote from: ravelfan07 on March 23, 2024, 01:28:05 AM
How would one go about practicing this first page?
Also, how would I even approach an octave tril?
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Offline gasplamey

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Re: Moonlight sonata, third movement
Reply #2 on: March 23, 2024, 01:39:10 AM
Quote from: ravelfan07 on March 23, 2024, 01:29:43 AM
Also, how would I even approach an octave tril?
What measure is this in?

I haven't played much of Moonlight, but the opening of movement three is a lot easier than it looks. It's just ascending sequences of arpeggiated chords played very quickly. Practicing normally is appropriate.
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Re: Moonlight sonata, third movement
Reply #3 on: March 23, 2024, 01:49:30 AM
Quote from: gasplamey on March 23, 2024, 01:39:10 AM
What measure is this in?

I haven't played much of Moonlight, but the opening of movement three is a lot easier than it looks. It's just ascending sequences of arpeggiated chords played very quickly. Practicing normally is appropriate.
Octave tril is in measure 30
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Offline jamienc

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Re: Moonlight sonata, third movement
Reply #4 on: March 23, 2024, 01:57:34 AM
Quote from: ravelfan07 on March 23, 2024, 01:29:43 AM
Also, how would I even approach an octave tril?

Well, how about practicing a trill with 3-5 to start?
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Re: Moonlight sonata, third movement
Reply #5 on: March 23, 2024, 10:08:34 AM
Quote from: ravelfan07 on March 23, 2024, 01:29:43 AM
Also, how would I even approach an octave tril?

You only trill the top note. And you can release the lower note as soon as you've played it.
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Re: Moonlight sonata, third movement
Reply #6 on: March 23, 2024, 03:11:24 PM
Quote from: brogers70 on March 23, 2024, 10:08:34 AM
You only trill the top note. And you can release the lower note as soon as you've played it.

Thank you, brogers70.
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Re: Moonlight sonata, third movement
Reply #7 on: March 23, 2024, 05:48:07 PM
Quote from: brogers70 on March 23, 2024, 10:08:34 AM
You only trill the top note. And you can release the lower note as soon as you've played it.
Thanks!
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Re: Moonlight sonata, third movement
Reply #8 on: March 29, 2024, 11:08:43 AM
Quote from: ravelfan07 on March 23, 2024, 01:28:05 AM
How would one go about practicing this first page?

The same way as you'd practice anything else. What issues do you have with the first page?
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Re: Moonlight sonata, third movement
Reply #9 on: March 30, 2024, 11:43:25 PM
Quote from: lelle on March 29, 2024, 11:08:43 AM
The same way as you'd practice anything else. What issues do you have with the first page?
Wasn’t sure if there was a more effective method than brute force practice, i.e. just going note for note
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Offline lelle

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Re: Moonlight sonata, third movement
Reply #10 on: March 31, 2024, 07:21:02 AM
Can you clarify a bit more what you mean by brute force practice? You shouldn't be forcing anything when practicing, ideally.
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Re: Moonlight sonata, third movement
Reply #11 on: April 01, 2024, 02:36:38 PM
Quote from: lelle on March 31, 2024, 07:21:02 AM
Can you clarify a bit more what you mean by brute force practice? You shouldn't be forcing anything when practicing, ideally.
What I mean is note by note
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Re: Moonlight sonata, third movement
Reply #12 on: April 02, 2024, 07:00:34 AM
Quote from: ravelfan07 on April 01, 2024, 02:36:38 PM
What I mean is note by note

Still not sure what you mean by that. Can you explain? What would be some other ways of practicing?
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Re: Moonlight sonata, third movement
Reply #13 on: April 05, 2024, 02:19:04 PM
Quote from: lelle on April 02, 2024, 07:00:34 AM
Still not sure what you mean by that. Can you explain? What would be some other ways of practicing?
Chord based practicing
Instead of doing the notes in the arpeggio
You go up in chords
Instead of g# c# e g# c# e g# c# e etc
You do the various inversions of the C sharp minor chord Beethoven put
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Re: Moonlight sonata, third movement
Reply #14 on: May 25, 2024, 10:37:27 PM
Quote from: ravelfan07 on March 23, 2024, 01:28:05 AM
How would one go about practicing this first page?
Slowly!
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