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Topic: Things in classical music that people seem to hate, but you love  (Read 2385 times)

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- Lang Lang: A showy, idiosyncratic pianist but very solid and exciting at times.

- Schumann (mostly just on this forum): His piano concerto is bad but I love some of the early solo works  including Humoreske, Carnaval, Sonatas 1 and 2, Faschingsschwank aus Wien, Papillons, and not early but Waldszenen.

- Schoenberg: This might be a really weird take, but I find his solo works quite relaxing.

- Bach: Not overhated, but unfavorable every once in a while to some ... and I find it to be the pinnacle of all classical repertoire. (Not the most enjoyable to listen to, just the best).

- Ligeti Musica Ricercata: I know the first movement is just spamming A, but it's brought out when you hear the other movements.

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Pieces written after 1900 that aren't some extension of Baroque/Classical/Romantic styles  ::)

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Pieces written after 1900 that aren't some extension of Baroque/Classical/Romantic styles  ::)
Interesting!  Examples of both?

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Original Liszt Etudes (people seem to really hate the 1837 Douze Grande Etudes for some reason)

Sorabji (I don't exactly "love" his music, but I seem to have a higher tolerance for it than most)

Mereaux's Etudes (Same as Sorabji; even Hamelin threw insults at them)


On the other hand, I just dislike Mozart and Beethoven and don't understand why people love them. I wouldn't say I hate their music, but I just don't see the appeal.
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On the other hand, I just dislike Mozart and Beethoven and don't understand why people love them. I wouldn't say I hate their music, but I just don't see the appeal.
If you haven't heard Beethoven's 5th Concerto, start there on the piano concertos and work backwards. I'd consider his piano concertos to be his best works (even more so than the piano sonatas or symphonies.) Mozart is more of a specific taste that you either enjoy his music or you don't tbh. Some people just like the Requiem or one of the minor key concertos, but I find only all his juvenile works before around K 400 to be simply "happy" like people say and enjoy all his works afterwards. It's also good to read up more on the historical context of each composer's compositions to understand them better.

Sorabji (I don't exactly "love" his music, but I seem to have a higher tolerance for it than most)
"Random note" complaints, I suppose. I don't completely understand Sorabji fully, but I enjoy his music for the limited time I can pay attention to it.
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On the other hand, I just dislike Mozart and Beethoven and don't understand why people love them. I wouldn't say I hate their music, but I just don't see the appeal.

If you want to see why someone might love Beethoven, have a listen to this class on interpreting one of the string quartets. It's worth the time.

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Interesting!  Examples of both?

To pick two of the same "kind": Rachmaninoff's Etudes vs. Debussy's. So it's not about the Etude genre pre-dating 1900, it's that Rach's are Romantic while Debussy's are modernist. And sure enough a quick forum search found 3,071 for 'Rachmaninoff etude' plus 3,036 for 'Rachmaninov etude' compared to 1,947 for 'Debussy etude'.

And for the record I wasn't implying I don't like things like the Rachmaninoff Etudes. It'd just be nice to talk about other repertoire from time to time but most people simply aren't fussed about it (I mean it took this thread 4 posts to revert to Mozart and Beethoven, haha)

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To pick two of the same "kind": Rachmaninoff's Etudes vs. Debussy's. So it's not about the Etude genre pre-dating 1900, it's that Rach's are Romantic while Debussy's are modernist. And sure enough a quick forum search found 3,071 for 'Rachmaninoff etude' plus 3,036 for 'Rachmaninov etude' compared to 1,947 for 'Debussy etude'.

And for the record I wasn't implying I don't like things like the Rachmaninoff Etudes. It'd just be nice to talk about other repertoire from time to time but most people simply aren't fussed about it (I mean it took this thread 4 posts to revert to Mozart and Beethoven, haha)
I don't think I've heard any hate towards the Debussy etudes ever, at least I don't hate them. This thread is more to talk about popular things that annoy lots of people, but you actually enjoy. Do you have any examples of hate towards the Debussy etudes? I really enjoy them, and even prefer them to Chopin's.
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I absolutely love contemporary music! :D

I love Ligeti's Musica Ricercata and Etudes!! They all sound so refreshing and I love all the little details one can possibly interpret in them.

I love Bartok, especially the sonata, allegro barbaro, and burlesques!

I love scales and technical practices: it is so so fun to just press the keys and work on technique. I would love to play hours and hours of these!

I also love Clementi's sonatas (don't know if people hate them, but they seem overlooked); he wrote a lot, and I wonder why people don't play it as much.

I do not think I could ever agree with liking Lang Lang (he's great though.)
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