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My first difficulty is that you are a new member who we haven't gotten to know yet, through any discussions in existing threads as a student, as a teacher, or as a musician - i.e. background.

I read the mockup response.  It is all kind of general "with a strong grasp of tempo rubato and expressive dynamics" - the advice is to "enhance gradual dynamic transitions, refine tempo shifts for natural phrasing flow, ensure clear articulation" - I don't know what a student could do with that.  A rather advanced pianist might be able to something with some bits maybe.

I'm far from a beginner.  I just finished a Chopin etude.  Off the top of my head, advice from my teacher along the way was specific pedal considerations between hand and foot for certain low registers that tended to blur the notes so an altered timing - staggering the 16 measure crescendo marked into the score into four-measure increments - specific considerations of interpretation here and there.

In your first post you write:
The cited feedback gives nothing for efficient practice: it gives interpretation feedback of sorts.  Efficient practice usually involves things like breaking the music into smaller sections, analyzing it beforehand, isolate areas of difficulty - there are a lot of discussions on efficient practice in all three piano forums (PianoStreet, Piano|Tel, PianoWorld).

I'm iffy about the idea of things being based on existing performances.

This part caught my attention:

Pianists are never involved in pitch accuracy since pianos are pre-tuned and the tuning cannot be changed by the player (pitch is always accurate).

Hi, thanks for the comments! The mock ups were from a couple releases ago and our users have also made us aware that sometimes the feedback were too generalized (and thus not helpful enough), and we have made them more focused and actionable. You've made a good point that at first glance the feedbacks look generic and that could potentially turn users away.

We are just at the beginning to re-create a masterclass-like experience in terms of feedbacks the app provides. In the example you shared, where your teacher may suggest that you split one long cresc. into multiple sub-cresecendos - our AI currently doesn't have such a high degree of autonomous decision-making, but it can tell you if you have executed the 16-bar cresec. well, and whether or not you need to make it more pronounced or subtle based on the reference interpretation. Or, (this is not done yet but possible), say your favorite pianist indeed splits the long crescendo into 4 smaller ones in his / her interpretation, the AI can detect that and suggest you do the same. Same thing with pedaling and timing related instruction. Chopin / Liszt etudes are probably among the hardest pieces for AI to critique since they are so technically demanding, but that's where our goal is.

Regarding practice efficiently - the app can help break down a piece into digestible segments with a brief title and analysis (this is done by distilling existing knowledge on that piece) when someone is learning a piece and getting ready to receive the interpretation-based feedback. We are also designing an algorithm that will suggest the next step to take on a piece, whether that be learning the next segment, or re-practicing a past segment based on how good the past practice session was. We want to cover the full "lifecycle" of learning, polishing, and finally "auditioning" a piece. I have attached another screenshot on this feature for reference.

Also, sorry for the confusion, by pitch accuracy I meant the detection of wrong notes, not piano tuning. Our reckoning is that pianists don't really need an app to check for wrong notes as wrong notes are often self-evident. So we skipped that part and focused on more advanced feedbacks.

Let me know if this helps, and I will be stocked if you can try the app and hear more of your thoughts on how we could make it more helpful, especially for advanced players like yourself!