Sixteenth Note Septuplet syncopated: Rhythm Analysis

[stillofthenight]

I'm having trouble understanding this rhythm and feeling comfortable playing it. It's in 4/4. If I'm understanding this correctly, the 16th note septuplet begins on the "uh" part of what would be the last 16th note of a standard 16th note grouping of 4 notes. So beginning on the "uh" I have to play 7 evenly spaced notes from "uh to "uh" so effectively 7 evenly spaced notes over 1 beat that begins on an I guess you would call syncoptaed part of the beat. So I end up feeling lost in the beat trying to play this. I would count the 16th note septuplet as shown: "Uh 2 3 4 5 6 7" . The Clicks are where I believe the metronome to sound on the typical quarter note downbeat

Is this rhythm even sensible to play? Maybe it was written poorly by the transcriber?

Thanks. Any help is much appreciated

[keypeg]

Can you give at least one measure and both staves along with the time signature for context?

[stillofthenight]

Sure. This one is actually written for a guitar. Treble clef only. Tablature on bottom

[brogers70]

Overall there are thirty notes to fit in 4 beats, so 7.5 notes per beat. Since you are talking about a transcriber, I'm guessing this was transcribed from a performance, maybe? In any case I imagine it was played fairly freely, just making sure that the 1st note lined up with the down beat and the 16th note lined up with the third beat.

[rachmaninoff_forever]

Don’t try to count it just make it fit

[stillofthenight]

Since you are talking about a transcriber, I'm guessing this was transcribed from a performance, maybe? In any case I imagine it was played fairly freely

I got it from here at 57 seconds. Whenever I stumble upon a strange guitar, drum, or piano rhythm I want to understand it

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[keypeg]

4/4 time.  I guess to get an idea you might mark the notes where the metronome falls and divide that to points between the metronome and then get a feel for what speeds up and slows down.  The beaming does not reflect the beats which is what one usually wants to have.

[brogers70]

In the bar you are talking about I hear no difference between the 32nd notes and the septuplet 16ths. I would guess the transcriber was trying to find a way to make the math of the notation add up correctly so that you have 30 notes over 4 beats. Back in the good old days they (e.g. Bach) would have just written 30 32nd notes and left it to you to figure how to space them over 4 beats. Chopin would have put a brace over the 30 32nd notes with a "30" label.

[rachmaninoff_forever]

I got it from here at 57 seconds. Whenever I stumble upon a strange guitar, drum, or piano rhythm I want to understand it

Not all rhythm is meant to be mathed out.  If you try to math it out it’s gonna sound weird.

I can guarantee dude on guitar was thinking ‘okay ima start on this note and play a run. *starts playing run*  Okay I’m almost at the next measure I need to fit in enough notes stick the landing somewhere’ *finishes run*

It may not be the kind of answer you’re looking for but that’s really how it is sometimes. 

[keypeg]

In the bar you are talking about I hear no difference between the 32nd notes and the septuplet 16ths. I would guess the transcriber was trying to find a way to make the math of the notation add up correctly so that you have 30 notes over 4 beats. Back in the good old days they (e.g. Bach) would have just written 30 32nd notes and left it to you to figure how to space them over 4 beats. Chopin would have put a brace over the 30 32nd notes with a "30" label.

That would have been better.  By trying to "explain the music with incorrect beaming he made a mess.

[lelle]

100% poorly beamed by the transcriber. If you just listen to where the click track clicks end up on the notes, you could beam it into something far more sensible. It doesn't make sense to you because the beaming makes no sense.