Could you list some short furious pieces?

[pseudopianist]

I'm looking for the some really furious pieces to listen (and maybe even learn) that or not too long. Not too hard either? (a bit above grade 8ish)

[rhapsody in orange]

Beethoven's Rage over Lost Penny? Not exactly very short but furious =)

[wintervind]

Debussy "fireworks" prelude. Im sorry, but I don't know the Opus number. Maybe someone else can fill that in for me!

[Ludwig Van Rachabji]

Sorabji's Opus Clavicembalisticum. 

Bartok's Allegro Barbaro is a good (realistic) one. It's not too hard, furious, impressive, and fun to play. https://www.piano.ru/scores/bartok/bartok-barbaro.pdf

Enjoy!

[thierry13]

Liszt's wild jagd

[LVB op.57]

Rachmaninoff Prelude in c# minor
op.3 no.2

[sharon_f]

Not too hard either? (a bit above grade 8ish)

Liszt's wild jagd

A bit above grade 8, really!!!

[pseudopianist]

Yesz, Wild Jagd is a bit of a skip.

Rage over a lost penny. I find this piece more cute and funny then furious. 
I haven't heard that Bartok piece tho, I will find a midi and check it out.
The C# minor prelude is lovely pearl tho. <3


The Debussy piece, didn't sound that simple. @_@

[gkatele]

A warhorse, but it's got lots of fun scales and runs.

Solfiegetto by CPE Bach.

(did I spell that right?)



George

[chopiabin]

Check out the late Scriabin preludes - most are pretty short, and have playing directions that sound hellish. There's a really cool one in 15/8 timing, not sure of the opus number but i think it might be in op. 74.

[Op. 1 No. 2]

Check out the late Scriabin preludes - most are pretty short, and have playing directions that sound hellish. There's a really cool one in 15/8 timing, not sure of the opus number but i think it might be in op. 74.

Isn't that Op. 11 No. 14?

[steinwayguy]

Allegro Barbaro definitely
Also Scriabin's Vers la Flamme

[Lance Morrison]

3rd part of Schönberg's op. 11---not sure of the difficulty

[ted]

The Rubinstein study in C (staccato) isn't nearly as hard as it sounds and you can play it as furiously as you wish.

[thierry13]

Wich grade would you classify Wild jagd?? Isn't it a little above grade 8 ? I once readed it and found it pretty easy. With practice, one can do it without so much difficulty. Sorry if you REALLY find it hard... 

[lostinidlewonder]

Two recent shortish furious peices ive been playing are Ravel's Tocatta and De Falla's Ritual Fire Dance. So many to say but I'll mention some of Scriabin preludes and etudes that I reckon are really good; Op8no9,12 ,Op11no14,  Op17no5(good encore piece if you can play it fast enough), Op45no5,6,7 (5 especially because its very easy for most people to understand and get into).

[bachmaninov]

Wich grade would you classify Wild jagd?? Isn't it a little above grade 8 ? I once readed it and found it pretty easy. With practice, one can do it without so much difficulty. Sorry if you REALLY find it hard...

Actually all the Transcendental Etudes are collegiate/doctoral level pieces, including Wilde Jagd - Far far far far from any "grade" level piece.

And Thierry, I'm sure i speak for everyone when I say that your comments aren't helpful to this forum.. at all. All I see from you is incessent bragging and claims that you "with just less than a year of piano with a teacher" are attempting some of the most difficult pieces for keyboard. You aren't fooling anyone but yourself, and I'm sure many would agree with me.

[steinwayguy]

Actually all the Transcendental Etudes are collegiate/doctoral level pieces, including Wilde Jagd - Far far far far from any "grade" level piece.

And Thierry, I'm sure i speak for everyone when I say that your comments aren't helpful to this forum.. at all. All I see from you is incessent bragging and claims that you "with just less than a year of piano with a teacher" are attempting some of the most difficult pieces for keyboard. You aren't fooling anyone but yourself, and I'm sure many would agree with me.

Agree 

[lostinidlewonder]

Wich grade would you classify Wild jagd?? Isn't it a little above grade 8 ? I once readed it and found it pretty easy. With practice, one can do it without so much difficulty. Sorry if you REALLY find it hard... 

Found it pretty easy huh?  But you've posted you find reading bach inventions impossible to do without mistake?

[bachmaninov]

By the way, in response to the real subject of this.

-Some short "furious" pieces i would recommend.

Of course, Liszt does come to mind... but Liszt is really TOO furious if you know what I mean...

-Scriabin Etude No. 12
-Aragon - Ernesto Lecuona (I'm pretty sure you've never even heard of this guy)-"Soaring" from Fantasieshtucke- Schumann
-Chopin "Ocean Wave" Etude - or "Revolutionary" Etude

But I HIGHLY recommend Moszkowski's Etincelles Op. 36 No. 6 (Allegro Scherzando) - This is a little over 2 minutes in length, and is very furious, and not too hard at all! You can find a recording of this in "Horowitz in Moscow".

I know more, just can't seem to think of any at me moment sorry!

[Ludwig Van Rachabji]

Actually all the Transcendental Etudes are collegiate/doctoral level pieces, including Wilde Jagd - Far far far far from any "grade" level piece.

And Thierry, I'm sure i speak for everyone when I say that your comments aren't helpful to this forum.. at all. All I see from you is incessent bragging and claims that you "with just less than a year of piano with a teacher" are attempting some of the most difficult pieces for keyboard. You aren't fooling anyone but yourself, and I'm sure many would agree with me.

I absolutely agree. Just about everything Thierry says is rubbish, and I was surprised at how many people actually believed him in his first post. Utter stupidity, really.

[apion]

Schumann Toccata op. 7 (i think it's op. 7).

[thierry13]

Actually all the Transcendental Etudes are collegiate/doctoral level pieces, including Wilde Jagd - Far far far far from any "grade" level piece.

And Thierry, I'm sure i speak for everyone when I say that your comments aren't helpful to this forum.. at all. All I see from you is incessent bragging and claims that you "with just less than a year of piano with a teacher" are attempting some of the most difficult pieces for keyboard. You aren't fooling anyone but yourself, and I'm sure many would agree with me.

Wild jagd is the easier liszt etude for me. Apart from this one, I agree they're all pretty hard. If you all hate me fine do and think what you want. I just don't try to boost or to fool anyone since I know what that anyway nobody believes me. Knowing this why would I try to fool you? Anyway I don't know anything about this grading system so grade 8 sounded like someone who played for 8 years... so one who plays for eight years can do wild jagd, in general. Some people say after 4 year they do rach's 2, and all found it perfectly normal. Nobody said to this one : hey you're trying to boost. So if it's normal to do rach 2 after 4 years, assuming that grade 8 is " eight years of playing", then one can do wild jagd. And the statement : " i readed it and found it pretty easy " doesn't mean : i made it perfectly at sight reading, like most of you seems to think. It meant that i read it to EVALUATE the piece, and by trying it, found that it was easier than the other transcendental etudes, by trying all of them at sight reading. So if you think I'm saying it's easy at sight reading just stop believing that. Hate me if you want, but just don't take my words for other things they are.

[bachmaninov]

Wilde Jagd is considered one of the HARDER Transcendental Etudes. Considering they are ALL HARD. To be honest, i wouldn't recommend this piece to a student. Instead, I think it is more fitting to be a challenge for a professional pianist. Much like how Liszt himself intended all his Transcendental works to be.

[aajjmb]

Actually all the Transcendental Etudes are collegiate/doctoral level pieces, including Wilde Jagd - Far far far far from any "grade" level piece.

And Thierry, I'm sure i speak for everyone when I say that your comments aren't helpful to this forum.. at all. All I see from you is incessent bragging and claims that you "with just less than a year of piano with a teacher" are attempting some of the most difficult pieces for keyboard. You aren't fooling anyone but yourself, and I'm sure many would agree with me.

definately

[Daevren]

Isn't that Op. 11 No. 14?

I think it is, that one is lovely.

[rhapsody in orange]

Pseudopianist is looking for short furious pieces.. Looks like the posts are getting furious too..

[thierry13]

Professional pianist do harder pieces than wild jagd in two weeks. Mei-ting sun, who is only 22-23 or something like that, learned feux-follet in two weeks, wich is WAY harder than wild jagd. But I agree they're all pretty hard. Again I'm sure you'll say : "but you said wild jagd was easy" ! NO, I said i found it easier than the others, not an easy piece. And I said too I was reading it when I found it easier than the other TEs, so I could be wrong since I can't sight read that at full speed. Maybe at full speed its harder... but just at sight read to try it and to overview the difficulties, it's easier than the other TEs.

[bachmaninov]

Professional pianist do harder pieces than wild jagd in two weeks. Mei-ting sun, who is only 22-23 or something like that, learned feux-follet in two weeks, wich is WAY harder than wild jagd. But I agree they're all pretty hard. Again I'm sure you'll say : "but you said wild jagd was easy" ! NO, I said i found it easier than the others, not an easy piece. And I said too I was reading it when I found it easier than the other TEs, so I could be wrong since I can't sight read that at full speed. Maybe at full speed its harder... but just at sight read to try it and to overview the difficulties, it's easier than the other TEs.

Yeah... there's just one problem with that! Wilde Jagd IS NOT easier than the others!! It is not a matter of opinion, you are far from experienced enough to be evaluating stuff like that, and you know it.

[Skeptopotamus]

Alkan Chemir De Fur is pretty furious i guess.

Bowen toccata and prokofiev toccata if you're up for it.

Some Chopin Preludes and etudes.  i dunno.  people are talking about feux d'artifice and wild jagd so im not really worrying about the difficulty here.

[pseudopianist]

Whoa! Many replies. (I love the catfights. Grrr)

I will try to check out as many of these pieces as soon as possible.

The Scriabin prelude, how could I forget! My teacher played it for me once, it is so breathtaking.

[thierry13]

Yeah... there's just one problem with that! Wilde Jagd IS NOT easier than the others!! It is not a matter of opinion, you are far from experienced enough to be evaluating stuff like that, and you know it.

It may not be easier than the others, but it sure is less hard than feux-follet.

[frederic]

None of these pieces here are as furious as Ginestera's Amercan Prelude No.5!!!!!!!!!!!!
and its easy but sounds so much more difficult...and its only just over a minute

[dinosaurtales]

None of these pieces here are as furious as Ginestera's Amercan Prelude No.5!!!!!!!!!!!!
and its easy but sounds so much more difficult...and its only just over a minute

ew!  I don't even know of this piece, but I'll bet you are right!  Ginastera's stuff is a kick in the pants!  I'd like to actually learn to play some of it someday!

[pianiststrongbad]

Suggestion Diabolique by Prokofiev is pretty furious.

[chromatickler]

Mei-ting sun, who is only 22-23 or something like that, learned feux-follet in two weeks.

yep, there's more freaks like that than we'd want to believe. nikolai lugansky learnt the rach3 in 3 days when he was 15, https://lugansky.homestead.com/files/Altamusica_Interview.htm
while someone like libetta could probably sightread it on stage

[IanT]

Henselt wrote a set of Concert Etudes.  The last of the set (I think it's in Bb minor) is a pretty cool piece.  It's short and sounds harder than it actually is (probably grade 8-ish).  Maybe it's more turbulent than furious, but it's worth considering.

Ian

[Radix]

The last movement of Liebermann's "Gargoyles."

[musicsdarkangel]

Ocean and Revolutionary etude furious?

I consider them more dramatic than furious.

I'd say that Winterwind is furious.....

Also op 10 no 4, short, and furious

I'd also like to agree with the Rach C sharp minor prelude.... his op 23 no 7 is also quite furious at points, and absolutely beautiful.

and hmmmmmm wow my brain is fried right now, will post later.

[CDS814]

O Polichenelo (spelling) which translates to The Punch. It is by Villa-Lobos and is part of the Baby's Family. 58 seconds long and it takes after its namesake.

[rafant]

Chopin's Prelude No 24, more furious than dramatic.

[pianowelsh]

Prokofiev suggestion diabolique, Bartok Allegro barbaro, Bartok out of doors (with pipes and with drums)* very sort circ 3mins with violent accel to end!