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Offline C-A

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Chopin Etudes
on: May 01, 2005, 03:30:22 AM
Give your opinion about anything about Chopin's Etudes.
For Me,
25/1 is kinda easy to learn, also the 25/6 is quite easy for me.
Your Opinions?

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Re: Chopin Etudes
Reply #1 on: May 01, 2005, 05:15:44 AM
if you think 25/ 6 is easy then i want to see a video!

Offline steinwayguy

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Re: Chopin Etudes
Reply #2 on: May 01, 2005, 06:21:00 AM
I'm praying to God you meant Op. 25 No. 2 or 3. . . Maybe 5, but I doubt even that?

The "least difficult" is certainly Op. 10 No. 6, followed by either 25/1 and 25/3.

Most difficult to perform- Op. 25 No. 4, (or, for me, Op. 10 No. 4, for some reason)

Most underrated etude to give a perfect performance of- 25/2, fo shizzle

Most often butchered etude- 10/4, 25/12 or 25/7

Most overrated in terms of technical difficulty- 10/1 or 25/11

Most difficult in general- 10/2, 25/4, 25/6

Etudes I just can't seem to get- 10/4 or 25/10

Just my thoughts.

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Re: Chopin Etudes
Reply #3 on: May 01, 2005, 07:16:50 AM
How hard is 25/9?  I was listening to it earlier today and following along with the sheet music, and nothing looked too hard; although, I'm probably just missing the difficulty due to my noobiness.
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Re: Chopin Etudes
Reply #4 on: May 02, 2005, 01:48:58 PM
How hard is 25/9? I was listening to it earlier today and following along with the sheet music, and nothing looked too hard; although, I'm probably just missing the difficulty due to my noobiness.
25/9 is a little difficult. You need some endurance to play it, even though its 52 seconds and 2 pages long. Its a preparation for a nastier one- 25/10, alias "Octave-Etude". Go to https://chopin.lib.uchicago.edu then search for etudes. Click at any of the link, then view score. Then look for Chopin Etude Op.25, no.9
if you think 25/ 6 is easy then i want to see a video!
I'm quite dumbhead when it comes to computer, so tell me how.

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Re: Chopin Etudes
Reply #5 on: May 02, 2005, 02:17:53 PM
Oh I nearly forgot- my opinions on the etudes.
I played only 2 of them, I can't make an opinion about it, but my teacher told me her opinions-
(Hardest to Easiest)
1) 25/11    2) 25/6*    3) 10/2   4) 25/12   5) 25/4   6) 10/1   7) 25/8   9) 25/10   10) 10/4    11) 10/11   12) 10/10   13) 10/7   14) 10/12   15) 25/3   16)10/3   17)10/8   18)25/7   19)10/5   20)25/2   21)25/1*   22)25/5   23)10/9   24) 10/6    25) 3 New Etudes

*The ones I've tried and learned

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Re: Chopin Etudes
Reply #6 on: May 02, 2005, 03:10:01 PM
Here's my order: (completely subjective though, from most difficult to easiest):
10-2
25-6
10-4
25-11
25-10
10-1
10-8
25-8
25-12
25-5
10-12
10-7
25-2
10-5
10-9
25-4
10-10
25-3
10-11
10-3
25-7
25-9
25-1
10-6



Waste of time -- do not read signatures.

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Re: Chopin Etudes
Reply #7 on: May 02, 2005, 11:51:04 PM
if you think 25/ 6 is easy then i want to see a video!
yes 25/6 is clearly a joke... i sightred that piece at 200 perfectly... I DON'T KNOW WHAT IDIOT WOULD THINK ITS EASY:p  Maybe Horowitz
I learnt and memorized Fantasie Impromptu In 2 hours!

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Re: Chopin Etudes
Reply #8 on: May 03, 2005, 12:02:00 AM
The easiest etude I think is the F minor one op/ 10, because I have a large handspan the only problem would be remembering the notes, because it is too fast to look up constantly at the music...Also C major number 1 will come easy, once again as Im sure I mentioned somewhere else the other crazy c major one for me is way too hard, along with study in thirds...
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Re: Chopin Etudes
Reply #9 on: May 03, 2005, 05:09:16 AM
but my teacher told me her opinions-
(Hardest to Easiest)
1) 25/11    2) 25/6*    3) 10/2   4) 25/12   5) 25/4   6) 10/1   7) 25/8   9) 25/10   10) 10/4    11) 10/11   12) 10/10   13) 10/7   14) 10/12   15) 25/3   16)10/3   17)10/8   18)25/7   19)10/5   20)25/2   21)25/1*   22)25/5   23)10/9   24) 10/6    25) 3 New Etudes

*The ones I've tried and learned
Purely based on the ranking of 25/11 as #1 i'd say you have an extremely insightful teacher who takes metronome markings seriously.

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Re: Chopin Etudes
Reply #10 on: May 03, 2005, 12:32:08 PM
Purely based on the ranking of 25/11 as #1 i'd say you have an extremely insightful teacher who takes metronome markings seriously.
I think you're right, but not extremely. She always tells me that 25/11 is the toughest, instead of 25/6, because her hands always begin to quiver at the recap of the main theme.
yes 25/6 is clearly a joke... i sightred that piece at 200 perfectly... I DON'T KNOW WHAT IDIOT WOULD THINK ITS EASY:p Maybe Horowitz
Well, it's easy to learn it, once you get used to it. My hands easily gets used to any kind of piece, except for the ones with huge and massive chords, great leaps, extremely fast notes like the ones on the middle section of 25/7, and pieces with 3 voices or more.

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Re: Chopin Etudes
Reply #11 on: May 03, 2005, 02:01:03 PM
Op.10 No.2 is one of the easiest to learn, but one of the hardest to play.  Especially if you are performing the whole Op.10, playing No.2 straight after No.1 is really difficult because of the open position of no1 and the closed position of no2.

I cheated once by playing No.3 after No.1 and then No.2  ;D

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Re: Chopin Etudes
Reply #12 on: May 04, 2005, 12:25:59 PM
After weeks of my right hand getting cramps and pain after playing 25/6, finally it's gone! My teacher gave me another etude to play- its kinda easy though- 10/9.
My left hand can easily stretch those massive arpeggios since its max. range is from Do to Mi at the next octave.
Together with that are Beethoven Sonata- 14/1 in E,   a Bach Prelude and Fugue and Chopin's Military Polonaise. :'( So much to learn, really hard work, ugh...
Man she's putting me to the test in preparation for my very 1st solo recital which is still next year. Plus, I'm only 15 years old. :o

I really hope she won't give me this one as my next piece.

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Re: Chopin Etudes
Reply #13 on: May 04, 2005, 12:34:08 PM
Watch Valentina Lisitsa's DVD and then from what you see, you'll probably come to the conclusion that Chopin's etudes are easy and we, simple mortals, just suck not to be able to play the 24  ;D
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